Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


Texans Talk Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-03-2008   #41
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
 
TexansSeminole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Orlando, FL
Age: 27
Posts: 8,512
Rep Power: 66299 TexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respectedTexansSeminole is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Jacoby Jones.. Wildcat?

I'd rather us beat them normally without trick plays. That way if we are making a statement it's "You may beat us on a trick play, but the way we beat you can be repeated over and over and over..."

Last edited by TexansSeminole; 12-03-2008 at 02:36 PM.
TexansSeminole is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2008   #42
Vinny
shiny happy fan
 
Vinny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Age: 50
Posts: 21,802
Rep Power: 154151 Vinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Jacoby Jones.. Wildcat?

Quote:
Originally Posted by LZ View Post
I guess I'm in total disagreement. I, for one, am a proponent of getting creating and thinking outside the box. The direct snap has worked for many teams around the league and in college football. Just because J-Ville snuffed it out the one time it was run you want the Texans to throw it away? I don't. I want Kubiak to be willing to take some chances from time to time. I hope the play getting stuffed wasn't too much of a deterrent because, as a punt returner, Jacoby should be able to make some things happen out of that formation.
most of us just wonder why they got cute on National TV when they had all season to try this one time. Most of us agree with you but the timing of the play, especially since we weren't even calling many running plays in the first half makes some of us wonder who's ego was in charge of this call and why our Coaches have to always be the 'smartest guy in the room' when they should just line up and run the damn ball.

with thanks from feebleminded
__________________
http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk


"A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow
Vinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2008   #43
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
 
Kaiser Toro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Straight Outta Austin
Age: 44
Posts: 16,041
Rep Power: 39244 Kaiser Toro is a quality contributor and well respectedKaiser Toro is a quality contributor and well respectedKaiser Toro is a quality contributor and well respectedKaiser Toro is a quality contributor and well respectedKaiser Toro is a quality contributor and well respectedKaiser Toro is a quality contributor and well respectedKaiser Toro is a quality contributor and well respectedKaiser Toro is a quality contributor and well respectedKaiser Toro is a quality contributor and well respectedKaiser Toro is a quality contributor and well respectedKaiser Toro is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Jacoby Jones.. Wildcat?

Jacoby Jones in wildcat formation? There is a time and place for that and it is college, practice or exhibition season.

I have looked and have not seen where Jacoby threw a pass in college, let alone in HS. That play was doomed to fail.

I would have rather seen a shovel pass executed than that BS.
__________________
Smell the glove is here
Kaiser Toro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2008   #44
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
 
CloakNNNdagger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 15,615
Rep Power: 184414 CloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respectedCloakNNNdagger is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Jacoby Jones.. Wildcat?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny View Post
most of us just wonder why they got cute on National TV when they had all season to try this one time. Most of us agree with you but the timing of the play, especially since we weren't even calling many running plays in the first half makes some of us wonder who's ego was in charge of this call and why our Coaches have to always be the 'smartest guy in the room' when they should just line up and run the damn ball.

with thanks from feebleminded

"Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools that have not wit enough to be honest. "

François de La Rochefoucauld
CloakNNNdagger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2008   #45
TEXANottoMAN
Rookie
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 4
Rep Power: 0 TEXANottoMAN is ridin' the pine
Default Re: Jacoby Jones.. Wildcat?

I thought it was UGLY in its execution. If I remember, there was a run blitz comming from the right. There has to be a way to check out of that play.
TEXANottoMAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2008   #46
stevn8r
Zombie
 
stevn8r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: austin
Section: 117 Row F 18-19
Posts: 280
Rep Power: 196 stevn8r is a quality contributor and well respectedstevn8r is a quality contributor and well respectedstevn8r is a quality contributor and well respectedstevn8r is a quality contributor and well respectedstevn8r is a quality contributor and well respectedstevn8r is a quality contributor and well respectedstevn8r is a quality contributor and well respectedstevn8r is a quality contributor and well respectedstevn8r is a quality contributor and well respectedstevn8r is a quality contributor and well respectedstevn8r is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via Yahoo to stevn8r
Default Re: Jacoby Jones.. Wildcat?

I thought it was Awesome! I was lauging my arse off when I saw JJ behind center. I wished it would have worked but I had no idea what was about to happen and that was the great thing about it, neither did anyone else!
This is a game and that was fun to watch! I am sure there was laughter on the side lines after that one. I say keep it up, change it up. Direct snaps to Slaton, reverse to OD and a long bomb to KW or Anderson....OOOOooo, how bout a Statue of Liberty??? Now we're Talkin!!!!
__________________
"You can't have a real country unless you have a beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer."~Frank Zappa~
stevn8r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-2008   #47
TimeKiller
Awaiting Email Confirmation
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: This giant tree, standing 10,000 ft. high but not reaching the ground. It's roots must hold the sky.
Section: 521/Couch
Age: 28
Posts: 7,648
Rep Power: 0 TimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respectedTimeKiller is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Jacoby Jones.. Wildcat?

Quote:
Originally Posted by spurstexanstros View Post
Because Jacoby can barely hold onto the ball during punt returns much less with a blitz and d-lineman bearing down on him thats why.
When was the last time he fumbled?
TimeKiller is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Old 12-04-2008   #48
BigBull17
Hall of Fame
 
BigBull17's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Alvin
Age: 33
Posts: 5,046
Rep Power: 6163 BigBull17 is a quality contributor and well respectedBigBull17 is a quality contributor and well respectedBigBull17 is a quality contributor and well respectedBigBull17 is a quality contributor and well respectedBigBull17 is a quality contributor and well respectedBigBull17 is a quality contributor and well respectedBigBull17 is a quality contributor and well respectedBigBull17 is a quality contributor and well respectedBigBull17 is a quality contributor and well respectedBigBull17 is a quality contributor and well respectedBigBull17 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Jacoby Jones.. Wildcat?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro View Post
Jacoby Jones in wildcat formation? There is a time and place for that and it is college, practice or exhibition season.

I have looked and have not seen where Jacoby threw a pass in college, let alone in HS. That play was doomed to fail.

I would have rather seen a shovel pass executed than that BS.
Yep, if you were gonna run it, use Walter. He is more natural running with the ball. Also a better decision maker, I think.
__________________
Ugh, I wish my dog would quit Schaubin in the living room...
BigBull17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2008   #49
Giant Tiger
Hall of Fame
 
Giant Tiger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Smiths Falls, Heart of the Rideau Canal-UNESCO World Heritage Site
Age: 53
Posts: 1,520
Rep Power: 9887 Giant Tiger is a quality contributor and well respectedGiant Tiger is a quality contributor and well respectedGiant Tiger is a quality contributor and well respectedGiant Tiger is a quality contributor and well respectedGiant Tiger is a quality contributor and well respectedGiant Tiger is a quality contributor and well respectedGiant Tiger is a quality contributor and well respectedGiant Tiger is a quality contributor and well respectedGiant Tiger is a quality contributor and well respectedGiant Tiger is a quality contributor and well respectedGiant Tiger is a quality contributor and well respected
Post Re: Jacoby Jones.. Wildcat?

Quote:
Originally Posted by maddogmrb View Post
IMO, we want some more creativity out of this team. So, it didn't work that time, the first play Mario played in probably didn't go so well either, should we have scrapped him? Perhaps they had the wrong personnel - how about running it with Owen Daniel our secret QB?
I thought the same thing. Daniels must have a better arm. They need to practice the play before using it in a game, though.
__________________
Awesome job SF!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2uRs...&feature=share
Giant Tiger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2008   #50
threetoedpete
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Katy, Texas
Age: 58
Posts: 6,644
Rep Power: 142 threetoedpete is a quality contributor and well respectedthreetoedpete is a quality contributor and well respectedthreetoedpete is a quality contributor and well respectedthreetoedpete is a quality contributor and well respectedthreetoedpete is a quality contributor and well respectedthreetoedpete is a quality contributor and well respectedthreetoedpete is a quality contributor and well respectedthreetoedpete is a quality contributor and well respectedthreetoedpete is a quality contributor and well respectedthreetoedpete is a quality contributor and well respectedthreetoedpete is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Jacoby Jones.. Wildcat?

Quote:
Originally Posted by CloakNNNdagger View Post
"Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools that have not wit enough to be honest. "

François de La Rochefoucauld
Well I went back and watched it again to be sure....Jacoby gives the ball off instead of keeping it, It's a big play. Line had every one engaged and there was a gaping hole. As fat as I am I could of picked up twelve yards. We have the extra tackle. Were down in ruining backs. Even if it didn't work it was worth a go. I'd like to see it again myself. This offense must, must mind you, have a rushing attack to make the passing attack go. If Salton goes down, they're dead.
__________________
"Everybody understands that the only way we're going to do it is by extremely hard work."
threetoedpete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2008   #51
Lucky
Moderator
 
Lucky's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 13,070
Rep Power: 141386 Lucky is a quality contributor and well respectedLucky is a quality contributor and well respectedLucky is a quality contributor and well respectedLucky is a quality contributor and well respectedLucky is a quality contributor and well respectedLucky is a quality contributor and well respectedLucky is a quality contributor and well respectedLucky is a quality contributor and well respectedLucky is a quality contributor and well respectedLucky is a quality contributor and well respectedLucky is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Jacoby Jones.. Wildcat?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser Toro View Post
Jacoby Jones in wildcat formation? There is a time and place for that and it is college, practice or exhibition season.
I hear you. But, I also get why they tried the wildcat.

Almost every team has installed some version of this gimmick offense (no one ran it better than Kordell Stewart back in the '90s). So, the Texans had to run a scout team version so the defense could see it in practice. The wildcat probably looked so good in practice, that Teflonman & Lil Shanny decided to put it into the gameplan.

What they failed to take into consideration was that a lot of plays can look good against a Richard Smith scheme, and fail miserably against a real NFL defense.
__________________
“We’re looking for a coach that...works with great energy and enthusiasm and very positive in his approach.” - Bob McNair
Lucky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2008   #52
Big Lou
Stop Clowning
 
Big Lou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Section: DirecTV
Age: 39
Posts: 3,073
Rep Power: 21478 Big Lou is a quality contributor and well respectedBig Lou is a quality contributor and well respectedBig Lou is a quality contributor and well respectedBig Lou is a quality contributor and well respectedBig Lou is a quality contributor and well respectedBig Lou is a quality contributor and well respectedBig Lou is a quality contributor and well respectedBig Lou is a quality contributor and well respectedBig Lou is a quality contributor and well respectedBig Lou is a quality contributor and well respectedBig Lou is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Jacoby Jones.. Wildcat?

I would like to run a new experimental punter Wildcat with Turk.

Are they gonna punt on second down?
NO.... It's the new P Wildcat, and Kris Brown is the lead blocker!!!!
What the hell just happened.

Can't stop the Turk.
Big Lou is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger