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Old 01-03-2005   #21
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Why don't we just pony up the cash & sign Jeremiah Trotter this year? He'd make our LB crew one of the best in the league (Wong/Trotter/Sharper/Babin, w/Peek in reserve).
IMO Peek would be just fine. Even if we did have to move Wong to the inside.
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Old 01-03-2005   #22
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Abraham will not come to the Texans. Lets wait and see if our #1 draft pick (Babin) and Peek pan out. Isn't that what we draft them for?
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where did it say we are not going after any high end FA's?
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where did it say we are not going after any high end FA's?
Casserly said it on 13 last night. He said that they would go after a few "bargain" free agents. Abraham will not be a bargain.
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Why don't we just pony up the cash & sign Jeremiah Trotter this year? He'd make our LB crew one of the best in the league (Wong/Trotter/Sharper/Babin, w/Peek in reserve).
Why would Trotter want to leave Philadelphia? He has already tried that once and had a terrible time in Washington. He fits in Philadelphia and probably realizes that even though he might be able to get more money elsewhere that he belongs in Philadelphia.
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Why would Trotter want to leave Philadelphia? He has already tried that once and had a terrible time in Washington. He fits in Philadelphia and probably realizes that even though he might be able to get more money elsewhere that he belongs in Philadelphia.
Maybe you're right, but until he signs, we can still make a run at him.
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Peter King of CNNSI.COM predicts that John Abraham from the Jets is headin to the Texans in the offseason as a free agent signing
It's really surprising to find out how many of these alleged "experts" who make
big $ writing NFL football articles for the likes of CNN don't understand something as fundamental as these small 4-3 DEs not having a place in the lineup as a down lineman for any of the 3-4 teams.
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The Jets do switch back and forth from 4-3 to 3-4, and he does fine when they switch. Really it all comes down to ability, Jason Taylor is way to undersized to do what he does.
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I don't think Abraham is going to be in a Texans uniform next year, but if he were it would be as an OLB and not as a down lineman.
He is the right size for an OLB in the 3-4.
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We would finally move Wong inside...
Wasn't he moved outside this year to give him more opportunites to make plays?

Oh and by the way, sorry guys, Abraham is coming to the Jags. PFW reports we're doing our homework on him and Jerry Porter (and PFW is 10x more credible than retarded Peter King), we have more cap room than you, and he'd get to play on a line with 2 guys that demand double teams.
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I really dont see this happening. if we put Abraham at OLB, he would have to learn the position.. there is more than pass rushing involved.

just, not very likely.
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I really dont see this happening. if we put Abraham at OLB, he would have to learn the position.. there is more than pass rushing involved.

just, not very likely.
That, and you don't pay 3-4 OLBs the type of money Abraham will command. There's a reason Pittsburgh constantly lets their All-Pro LBs leave, only to plug in cheap new guys and get more All-Pros (Kevin Greene, Chad Brown, Carlos Emmons, Earl Holmes, Mike Vrabel). Heck, chances are even former DROTY Kendrell Bell will be allowed to walk in free agency, replaced by a gentleman named Larry Foote. Who? Exactly.
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Oh and by the way, sorry guys, Abraham is coming to the Jags.
Abraham will be franchised by the Jets. He's not going anywhere.
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I think its funny how one week all the fans sit here saying they love the idea of Peek and Babin playing opposite one another next season, saying Peek is what this team needs. The next week he is hurt and not playing and people say they needed his fire in there. Then one little rumor comes around and all is forgotten? Could the bandwagons get any bigger? Its no different than booing your own team on the field during the game. Maybe everyone could try to support the players they have consistently. I mean how two faced is it when attitudes about everything change every single week.
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Old 01-03-2005   #36
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Heya Cincinnatikid...its obvious who I want to start.
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I believe that some people are fantazing about the ideal defense without realizing the time it takes to develop continuity amongst the defense. The best thing that I believe could happen is that the entire defense works out together and we don't lose any important pieces.
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Abraham will be franchised by the Jets. He's not going anywhere.
Maybe, but maybe not. Franchise DEs cost $8 mil plus. They just signed Pennington and Ellis to monster contracts. They have Santana Moss up next year as a FA. They have Bryan Thomas, another 1st round DE that's played well, waiting in the wings. Some signs point to them letting Abraham walk.
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I believe that some people are fantazing about the ideal defense without realizing the time it takes to develop continuity amongst the defense. The best thing that I believe could happen is that the entire defense works out together and we don't lose any important pieces.
Problem now is the aging of the defense. For starters, both Aaron Glenn and Jamie Sharper are getting past their prime. We saw their best in years 1 & 2.
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Problem now is the aging of the defense. For starters, both Aaron Glenn and Jamie Sharper are getting past their prime. We saw their best in years 1 & 2.
I believe those two play ILB and CB, not OLB where the texans have two young players. They need to focus on the older players being replaced such as sharper in the next couple years, Glenn, the def. line. This team doesnt need another OLB.
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