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Old 01-04-2005   #21
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correction on the roy willaims thing. i believe the lions made a trade with the browns and took roy at the 7. which was a steal becuase many had him ranked as the best in the draft class, which alot of people also feel about derrick johnson.
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No. I think the Texans will stay put and take BPA. If johnson falls, then he falls.

Also there is a thread about this already in the nfl draft section, which is where this should be...
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NO. This team has to many holes to fill to be sacrificing first day picks for a single players.

On a side note, are we in for ANOTHER offseason of people screaming that we trade up for a single players. Last year it ws Sean Taylor, I quess this year it's Derrick Johnson.
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two weeks ago I would have agreed on the trading up thing.. but alot has changed the last two weeks :P. We have too many needs.
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On a side note, are we in for ANOTHER offseason of people screaming that we trade up for a single players. Last year it ws Sean Taylor, I quess this year it's Derrick Johnson.
Please god no. I dont know if I can deal with 1 trillion post about trading up. We are #13 in the ENTIRE draft! We will get a good player at an imediate need.

IMO, we are set at OLB. But if Johnson does fall, then im sure we can move wong around to make room. But there are so many needs on this team right now.
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On a side note, are we in for ANOTHER offseason of people screaming that we trade up for a single players. Last year it ws Sean Taylor, I quess this year it's Derrick Johnson.
Yes, probably so, it's the off season, people like to throw out all sorts of ideas, and you are going to hear them over and over again. I'm sure there are quite a few people who believe there are players good enough to trade up for.

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Someone said it already. Lets go find all of the Sean Taylor threads from last year and sub in "Derrick Johnson" and simply repost them. I'm sure we will only be seeing clones of those this offseason.
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Why trade up (costing us next year's 1st round pick) to draft DJ when Ahmad Brooks has just as much potential and has experience playing in the 3-4.
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Why trade up (costing us next year's 1st round pick) to draft DJ when Ahmad Brooks has just as much potential and has experience playing in the 3-4.
Very good point. But I dont think he has commited to leaving school just yet. There will be a player or two that shifts the whole first round. Lets just hope hes after 13.
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Yes, probably so, it's the off season, people like to throw out all sorts of ideas, and you are going to hear them over and over again. I'm sure there are quite a few people who believe there are players good enough to trade up for.

My question to you is, what do you care? Is it that you will have to read extra responses in a thread? I'm a teacher, I'll tell you the same thing I tell my kids, the more you read, the better your comprehension and vocabulary becomes. Enjoy, it's going to be a long 8 months

Yeah, I'll probaly read the first dozen or so; but hopefully with how much better the team did by not trading up the cries for doing it won't be that bad this year.
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Boy I would love to have Derrick Johnson, but I really think we would have to sacrifice too much to get a guy like him. He'll probably be the first defensive player taken in the draft, so we would really have to trade WAY up. It would just cost us too much.
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IMO, there is a BIG difference between trading up with your first pick by using a lot of your draft up and trading up to get an additional 1st round pick using a lot of your draft. I wasn't all that thrilled last year to use those picks (I like Babin though) but to do that for only one first rounder would be a VERY dangerouse thing to do. We need all the first day picks we have this year and if we could manage to get one or two more it would be great.
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I dont think that we will give up all that would be wanted for a Derrick Johnson. And on a lot of mock drafts they have him falling somewhere near #9 or #10 but hay maybe he will fall to #13. If he does then I dont see how we pass him up but I dont think that we would trade up for him even though i see him as the best player in the draft.


And i do represtent one of the people who thought that it would do us some major good to trade up for ST last year. And if I remember correctly the Texans also coveted him and had a deal made with Wash before the Redskins backed out in the last minute.
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Is he a 3-4, two gap guy, I like the idea of drafting a DL in the first round. If Smith moves over that will solve two problems, kinda like last year and Robinson which moved Coleman to FS
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I dont think that we will give up all that would be wanted for a Derrick Johnson. And on a lot of mock drafts they have him falling somewhere near #9 or #10 but hay maybe he will fall to #13. If he does then I dont see how we pass him up but I dont think that we would trade up for him even though i see him as the best player in the draft.


And i do represtent one of the people who thought that it would do us some major good to trade up for ST last year. And if I remember correctly the Texans also coveted him and had a deal made with Wash before the Redskins backed out in the last minute.
Not to fuel the fire here, but IF a scenario came about where we are talking the difference between #10 and #13 then maybe--unlike last year where we were looking at #10 and #5--huge price difference.

And Buff, where did you see anything other than a rumor that MAYBE Houston and the Skins were talking? Never saw even a hint that a deal was made.
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WLB Derrick Johnson (#11) makes plays all over the field and is at his best when he is free to run to the football. He probably fits a 4-3 defense better than a 3-4.
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I was one of the biggest sean taylor supporters last year...but that was because i thought he was the best player in the draft. Dunta was so much better, so i guess i'll take my crow. In this draft, i feel like the best 2 players are braylon edwards and carlos rogers, but i will really be happy with us taking BPA at 13...i dont think we should trade down in such a weak draft. D line would be nice, a non injury prone tight end would be nice, maybe a middle linebacker. My only preferences are no trade downs, and the pick either be braylon or defense, with emphasis on rogers.
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I'd like to see another cornerback in round 1 (face it Dante is grooming for Glenns job and be nice to have someone fill in for Dante''s slot afterward)
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