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Old 11-16-2008   #1
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Default Defense today's scapegoat...

Had we just held up on 1 or 2 of those 3rd AND LONGS we would've seen Sage handing it off to Slaton and Green the rest of the game on easy street heading for victory.
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Default Re: Defense today's scapegoat...

My thoughts exactly. The offense had a solid day, but the defense was on the field the whole game, so they had no chance.
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Except for some notable exceptions (turn overs), our offense has been pretty darn good all season. The defense on the otherhand.............
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Default Re: Defense today's scapegoat...

Richard Smith strikes again...........
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Petey gets beat over and over, Reeves never looks back for the ball. It sounds like a broken record week after week. Damn it Dick if we all see it why can't you.
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Default Re: Defense today's scapegoat...

Colts averaged about 310 per game before today.

I think they had over 450 against us.

If they don't have the six dropped passes in the first half they blow us out.
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Petey gets beat over and over, Reeves never looks back for the ball. It sounds like a broken record week after week. Damn it Dick if we all see it why can't you.
Ive been a huge Fred Bennett supporter and I still am but he had a terrible game today as well. None of the corners did anything and the LBers didnt cover today either. Two plays that stick out from that standpoint are Addai's TD catch against DeMeco and the little screen on about 3rd and 14 that went for a first. Terrible.
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Colts averaged about 310 per game before today.

I think they had over 450 against us.

If they don't have the six dropped passes in the first half they blow us out.
Exactly right on the dropped passes. What are the odds the coaches own up to that though? I think we will hear something along the lines of how we held them in the first half and then didnt get it done in the 2nd.
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Had we just held up on 1 or 2 of those 3rd AND LONGS we would've seen Sage handing it off to Slaton and Green the rest of the game on easy street heading for victory.
I think Peyton remembered Petey Faggins was covering marvin Harriosn...game over.
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I think Peyton remembered Petey Faggins was covering marvin Harriosn...game over.
I just don't understand these coaching decisions. They had Petey covering Calvin Johnson in the Detroit game too, and that almost ended up in disaster.
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Ive been a huge Fred Bennett supporter and I still am but he had a terrible game today as well.
Bennett has not played as well as he did last season. Same can be said of Okoye. This coaching staff does not develop defensive players. Guys like Bennett, Okoye, and Travis Johnson have regressed as players, the more they've been exposed to this staff. I would suggest that Mario's success has come from his amazing physical gifts.

Other than LB coach Johnny Holland, the defensive assistants are worthless. If Kubiak somehow survives to as head coach in '09, Holland should be retained. If not promoted. I doubt a lame duck Kubiak could do better than Holland this offseason.
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The defense is this season's scapegoat. They can't freaking make a stop when they need one all freaking year long. 3rd and longs, they haven't stopped a 4th down play all year, 96 yard passes, it just doesn't matter.

This defense stinks. They're predictable, they're bland, they have no pre-snap movement, they don't make adjustments, they can't make stops when they need them, and all of that falls on the guy running it.

IT'S TIME TO MAKE THE CHANGE NOW!!!!!

GET RID OF SMITH...PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
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mario and demeco are the only guys we have on defense. everyone else sucks. we need to overhaul the D through the draft and free agency this offseason. i now believe that our DC is trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit! it's not his fault we send him to a gun fight with a slice of bread.
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This season our opponents have scored 38, 31, 30, 31, 28, 21, 6, 28, 41, and 33 points. We are one fluke day against Cincinnati from giving away 30+ points per game. Seriously, if we take that one weird day where we allowed 6 points out and put in an average 28.7 point day then we would be allowing 30.9 points per game.

I don't know how anyone can justify that. If I were Richard Smith I'd be submitting my resignation at the end of the season out of a sense of shame for my failure. If I were a player on that defense I'd be sick to my stomach all week thinking about how much we suck and spend my every waking minute trying to correct it.

If Bob McNair retains this staff in its entirety following this season (and I'm speaking mostly to the defensive side of the ball) then I don't see how anyone can question the statement that the Texans are clearly the AFC's version of the Detroit Lions and owned by a man whose too stupid to fix his broken team. He'll basically become the one kind of owner who has a good shot at being worse than Bud Adams. That kind of owner is "incompetent". You can be an asshat. You can be stingy and get away with it if you're also shrewd. You can even be crazy and sport a Super Bowl ring or two if you earn them before you also get senile. You can do all of those things and still own a team that's loved and at least part of the time wins or "has won". What you can't do is be incompetent and that's what Bob McNair will prove he is if he doesn't fix this before next year.
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Bennett has not played as well as he did last season. Same can be said of Okoye. This coaching staff does not develop defensive players. Guys like Bennett, Okoye, and Travis Johnson have regressed as players, the more they've been exposed to this staff. I would suggest that Mario's success has come from his amazing physical gifts.

Other than LB coach Johnny Holland, the defensive assistants are worthless. If Kubiak somehow survives to as head coach in '09, Holland should be retained. If not promoted. I doubt a lame duck Kubiak could do better than Holland this offseason.

I agree with all you said. But I would like to take it one step further going as far to say that they haven't "developed" Mario either. If you watch the games carefully......especially this game, you will notice that when Mario rushes, it's ALWAYS to the outside in a big circle, trying to get to the QB from behind. He never rushes to the inside of the OT. When's the last time you saw Mario even twist to the inside. Don't think that good coaches and QBs have not picked this up on game film. With the lack of pressure never coming from any one else up the middle, the QB simply takes a step or 2 forward in the pocket, and automatically is out of Mario's reach. The coaches have not developed variations to Mario's one dimensional theme. Again, LUCKY, as you said, there is lack of development on the D side of the ball.............but I see NO EXCEPTIONS.
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We just got owned in the interior of our defense today. Except for Mario no one did anything. The lack of speed from our linebackers and our inept secondary it's just too many holes to cover up. Hopefully in the offseason we'll get rid of some of these guys and get some speed on our defense.
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??? There are teams out there with talent worse than the Texans that get more out of their players, say Atlanta and Miami. It isn't the players fault that they are thrust into inopportune positions. It's not the Petey's fault that they are consistently run on the field together. That's a coaching decision.
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I personally think that while our defense didn't play well this game isn't on them. We're playing Peyton Manning, he always lights our defense up; they played respectably considering how they've done in the past. If anyone is a scapegoat this week it's Sage (again). All he has to do is play smart football and we likely could/would have been fine in that 2-minute drill. That's my thoughts, at least.
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The Dline outside of Mario needs to stop trying to get to QBs like Manning and work on putting up their hands. How many deflected passes have we had this year? None come to mind.
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