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Old 11-13-2008   #1
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I know I probably am going to get some heat for this and I can't wait for the barrage of insults to come my way for not being a "true" fan despite being a season ticket holder from the beginning and attending and watching all the games.

I fully expect us to lose our next two on the road. There is absolutely nothing to suggest we won't get killed. We haven't won a road game in over a year and look like crap on the road during the Kubiak era. Obviously, I want us to win both games. I have always watched the games either on TV for road games and at Reliant. I always have gone to preseason games as well.

For my sanity, I am instituting a personal boycott and am not going to watch the Colts game. I have Sunday Ticket and will be watching all of the other games instead.

Our next home game is a Monday nighter on Dec. 1 against the Jags. Its our first Monday night game since 1994. We are going to have media attention and unfortunately for the rest of the country, we will be the only game on that night.

I would like to use that opportunity to show that I as a fan and season ticket holder am extremely pissed and unhappy at the state of our team. I want to convey the fact that we Texans fans are not going to be satisfied with the status quo going into next year and that a sacrificial lamb firing while necessary in the case of Richard Smith (IMO he should have been canned after his 1st year) is not enough. To borrow from our President-elect, we need fundamental chage in how we do things now.

I am not looking to make myself into a spectacle or attract attention to myself. I would be willing to wear a non-descript pin or t-shirt in a show of solidarity with my fellow suffering Texans fans. There of course is the whole paper bag on your head but that comes close to *********gery.

Basically, I had a lot of respect for Lions fans showing their disgust and outrage with the Matt Millen regime. "Fire Millen" chants were heard all over Michigan even at non-Lions or football games. They wore t-shirts to that effect and basically have voiced frustration in not winning anything since 1957 and having only 1 playoff win since that time. I respect that as a fan and now that they have been beaten down by the suckitude but they still care and are not apathetic. I want the football world to know that we Texans fans are a loyal and hardy bunch and that we are not happy with the state of our team.

The differece with Houstonians is we are nicer and more mellow. As a fanbase we care. Do y'all feel the same way wanting to express your displeasure but not wanting to create a spectacle out of yourself. I take no pleasure in wanting to do this and desperately want us to be a winner. I don't like to boo but have booed several times (especially the last game) when it came to performance of our team and coaching. Booing is not enough.

What are your thoughts?

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Rep for this post. Some times, when I am really feeling the anger, I want to make a sign or something. But then I think, I don't want to be THAT guy.
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My perception is to wear shirts or have signs that say "Fire Kubiak" or things to that effect just make the franchise and city as a whole look weak, unwanted and basically make them out like the team is some sorta joke. The announcers or sports writers will probably talk and write about it and that just brings more attention to what shambles the franchise is in. I think it just makes the franchise and city look even worse, when the fans do things like that.

Let's take Detroit, again, for example. If I turn on the tv and see them playing, I know the fans aren't happy, that they want their team to get better and win. I don't have to see tshirts, signs or paper bags to know they are embarrassed. It's when they call even more attention to the fact that they look like a joke and embarrass the franchise even more. I have more respect for them when I see them supporting their team, rooting for them to win even though they're going 0-16 than for them to throw the team/coach/whoever under the bus while going 0-16.

Those are just my thoughts and opinions. I think if you were to do something like wear a "Fire Kubiak" t shirt, it'd just call more attention to the country about how much we suck right now... and that's not really going to make things better.

If anything I'd get straight and to the point, honest and somewhat funny. Just have a sign that says something like, "I wish we would win more." And sport a frown while your wearing it. I think it'd be funnier to see a fan like that than being pissed off at the team.

I still love my team of many flaws.
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Up here at UVa the football stadium actually outlawed all signs because there were too many "Fire Groh" signs being displayed.

I think some signs are good, but not all. Like OMT said, you have to make them funny if you can. We don't want to make the city look like a joke

Here are some ideas of how to get them on ESPN:
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My perception is to wear shirts or have signs that say "Fire Kubiak" or things to that effect just make the franchise and city as a whole look weak, unwanted and basically make them out like the team is some sorta joke. The announcers or sports writers will probably talk and write about it and that just brings more attention to what shambles the franchise is in. I think it just makes the franchise and city look even worse, when the fans do things like that.

Let's take Detroit, again, for example. If I turn on the tv and see them playing, I know the fans aren't happy, that they want their team to get better and win. I don't have to see tshirts, signs or paper bags to know they are embarrassed. It's when they call even more attention to the fact that they look like a joke and embarrass the franchise even more. I have more respect for them when I see them supporting their team, rooting for them to win even though they're going 0-16 than for them to throw the team/coach/whoever under the bus while going 0-16.

Those are just my thoughts and opinions. I think if you were to do something like wear a "Fire Kubiak" t shirt, it'd just call more attention to the country about how much we suck right now... and that's not really going to make things better.

If anything I'd get straight and to the point, honest and somewhat funny. Just have a sign that says something like, "I wish we would win more." And sport a frown while your wearing it. I think it'd be funnier to see a fan like that than being pissed off at the team.

I still love my team of many flaws.
I appreciate your feedback and see what your saying. Again, I don't want to make a spectacle of myself or try to get on TV or anything like that. That is why I created this thread. I guess I am just frustrated with the lack of any input that we fans have with regard to the "product" we are buying in the Texans. Don't show up to the games to show your displeasure you are wasting money and the national perception becomes that we are bad fans. Show up and stew in the misery and McNair doesn't get the message that the natives are restless. I guess that is my frustration.
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A sign that says, We will win................someday.

I can't even think about wearing a shirt that says fire Kubiak. Waaay too negative for primetime. The empty seats will be embarrassing enough.

Often, you can make your point better with humor especially when the situation is anything but funny.
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I've been thinking about this....

If you normally buy 4 beers per game, cut back to 3.
If you normally buy 3 hotdogs per game (piggy), cut back to 2.
etc.
etc.
etc.

x 60,000 adds up.


Revenues will drop, but in an inconspicuous way, but will still be felt.
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Lose the rubber suit and hose, then say it.
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For my sanity, I am instituting a personal boycott and am not going to watch the Colts game. I have Sunday Ticket and will be watching all of the other games instead.
I call BS. We Houston sports fans are notorious for giving our teams multiple chances. I don't think you can do it if you are a true Texan fan.

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Best way to support the team is to support football in Houston on MNF.

Decked out and loud.

Show free agents that this is a great destination to come to.

Hopefully the team will be competitive over the next couple of weeks and for that game, or it will be a long time before we get another MNF or much of anything prime time.

Whoever the coaches end up being on the team, we need to put on a good show. To make TV want to come back.

I don't think Detroit is a place you want to emulate, and I am sure that McNair already knows that the fans are pissed.
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Best way to support the team is to support football in Houston on MNF.

Decked out and loud.

Show free agents that this is a great destination to come to.

Hopefully the team will be competitive over the next couple of weeks and for that game, or it will be a long time before we get another MNF or much of anything prime time.

Whoever the coaches end up being on the team, we need to put on a good show. To make TV want to come back.

I don't think Detroit is a place you want to emulate, and I am sure that McNair already knows that the fans are pissed.
I'm with that. There isn't any bigger show peice during the regular season than MNF, and Houston fans at least need to be backing the team from the start. If things go bad then start booing, but at least give the impression of the fanbase being behind the team.
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How about something like:
- "Kubiak is a Maverick"
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- "Texans fans need some Change we can belive in."

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How about something like:
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lol

OMG, thats awful. But why am I laughing so hard?
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Best way to support the team is to support football in Houston on MNF.

Decked out and loud.

Show free agents that this is a great destination to come to.

Hopefully the team will be competitive over the next couple of weeks and for that game, or it will be a long time before we get another MNF or much of anything prime time.

Whoever the coaches end up being on the team, we need to put on a good show. To make TV want to come back.

I don't think Detroit is a place you want to emulate, and I am sure that McNair already knows that the fans are pissed.

Thank you for bringing reason back to this thread. I'm just as angry as many of you are about our so-called progress. I like TexansFight's idea for a boycott but not during our first prime time MNF game. We need to show the world that we love our team. We are fans who get behind our team.

I tried to do a search for the video of our opening drive on youtube but it appears to have been taken off. If anyone could repost that, it'd be great because I know I need a pick me up and a reminder of how happy the city of Houston was to have football back. That's what we all need to remember. Remember how loud it was before/during/after the opening kick off. I'll never forget it. We all need to remember that.
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Thank you for bringing reason back to this thread. I'm just as angry as many of you are about our so-called progress. I like TexansFight's idea for a boycott but not during our first prime time MNF game. We need to show the world that we love our team. We are fans who get behind our team.

I tried to do a search for the video of our opening drive on youtube but it appears to have been taken off. If anyone could repost that, it'd be great because I know I need a pick me up and a reminder of how happy the city of Houston was to have football back. That's what we all need to remember. Remember how loud it was before/during/after the opening kick off. I'll never forget it. We all need to remember that.
He said he was doing a personal boycott by not watching the Colts game at home...he stated he was going to the MNF game.
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He said he was doing a personal boycott by not watching the Colts game at home...he stated he was going to the MNF game.
Yeah, by trying to band together a group of fans into wearing shirts that show his displeasure for the Houston Texans on Monday Night Football. At least, that is how I understood his post to mean?
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Yeah, by trying to band together a group of fans into wearing shirts that show his displeasure for the Houston Texans on Monday Night Football. At least, that is how I understood his post to mean?
dude has season tickets, a PSL, and has been posting on our message boards since before 2002....I'd say he has a right to voice his displeasure. I'm gonna support my home team as much as I can too, but I'm gonna make sure the Texans know I'm not satisfied in the least bit myself. I'm sure a couple of the webmaster guys who write for the team are sick of my text messages.
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we as fans would look like tools if the t-shirt idea would get some airtime, and then have our team win the game.

I don't wnt to be labeled as a fickle fan so I'll support the team they put out on the field...as usual and probably to a fault.
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The entire point is moot. You can't get more than a half dozen Houston sports fans to participate in anything "synchronized" at one time. It will never be noticed because too many of the people at the game won't even be there because they love football or the Texans or the NFL. They'll be there because somebody they know has season tickets and didn't want to go or because their company had seats and wasn't using them. They'll be there because it's fun to sit inside the little concourse area in the expensive section and talk with friends, see and be seen, and maybe watch a little of the game on all the television sets.

I see your point TexansFight and like the idea but I just don't think that the Texans inspire enough "passion" to get you many participants.
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Default Re: Suggestions on how to voice our displeasure without looking like a *********?

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Originally Posted by Hervoyel View Post
The entire point is moot. You can't get more than a half dozen Houston sports fans to participate in anything "synchronized" at one time. It will never be noticed because too many of the people at the game won't even be there because they love football or the Texans or the NFL. They'll be there because somebody they know has season tickets and didn't want to go or because their company had seats and wasn't using them. They'll be there because it's fun to sit inside the little concourse area in the expensive section and talk with friends, see and be seen, and maybe watch a little of the game on all the television sets.

I see your point TexansFight and like the idea but I just don't think that the Texans inspire enough "passion" to get you many participants.
Let me ask you this... would you be saying that I don't have enough passion because I'm not a fan of pulling a statement like that on national TV at this juncture in our short history. I'm just as upset as the next person but I believed that Kubiak was the answer. I believed that Schaub would take us to the next level. I genuinely believed that we were headed in the right direction up until now. I'm now starting to question our coaches and the direction that the team is headed in.

I'm more of an advocate of letting McNair know this rather than having it blasted all over national TV. McNair made a statement the other day that leads me to think that he's heard us and he's listening. The hot seat is growing hotter by the game now. If no major changes are made next season then maybe I'll be one of those joining in with TexansPride and his national statement.

I guess I'm saying... talk to the boss before you embarrass him on TV. Give him a shot to fix the problem. Just how long have we been clamoring for Kubiak's head here? Not really all that long.

To Vinny, I definitely think he's earned the right to state his displeasure. So have I. I'm just not ready to embarrass our organization by blasting them just yet. I need a little more time before I start to get really angry.
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