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Old 01-02-2005   #21
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I'd rather look for an O-lineman in free agency. Maybe we could land someone big?
Only if we get someone great like Jones, no more weigert's and wade's that doesn't seem to be working out. I don't mind them, but they're not great.
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Currently (NOT OFFICIAL) , we are setting at pick 12 or 13... We are tied only with Carolina.. and strength of schedule is the same, looking for nest level. All other games wont matter.

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Only if we get someone great like Jones, no more weigert's and wade's that doesn't seem to be working out. I don't mind them, but they're not great.
I realize Pitts has more of a guard's build, but I think he did a good job outside. Wasn't really thrilled when they moved him.
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Well, the Rams just won their game.

So does that move us up another spot in the draft?

ETA - I get confused with the way the draft works....
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That cutesy boy has gotten his *** kicked for three yrs and had gotten back up every time, gotten better every year and has led his team to wins every year. Not sure why I even wasted my time replying to your comments. Oh well.
Like it or not, Carr has regressed the second half of this season. His decision making has been questionable at best. There's nothing wrong with looking for a franchise quarterback. Carr is nothing better than average. If he is a franchise QB please provide something to back this up other than the fact that he has been sacked a bunch and still plays the games.
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Like it or not, Carr has regressed the second half of this season. His decision making has been questionable at best. There's nothing wrong with looking for a franchise quarterback. Carr is nothing better than average. If he is a franchise QB please provide something to back this up other than the fact that he has been sacked a bunch and still plays the games.
Yeah I'll do that as soon as you provide something to back up why we should get rid of him.
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Currently... We are either pick 12 or 13... No other games matter. We are tied with the Panthers. Strength of Schedule is the same, I am trying to find the next level so we can find out if we are pick 12 or 13.

Anyone know the rule past Strength of schedule?
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Yeah I'll do that as soon as you provide something to back up why we should get rid of him.

Other then the underthrown passes, and the sidearming balls, but what about his descision making...
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Currently (NOT OFFICIAL) , we are setting at pick 12 or 13... We are tied only with jacksonville.. and strength of schedule is the same, looking for nest level. All other games wont matter.

How are we tied with Jacksonville.....We are 7-9, and they are 8-7 right now, if they loose today then they will be 8-9, but still a better record than us.
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Yeah I'll do that as soon as you provide something to back up why we should get rid of him.
I never said to get rid of him. He is an average QB which would make a great backup.
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How are we tied with Jacksonville.....We are 7-9, and they are 8-7 right now, if they loose today then they will be 8-9, but still a better record than us.

My bad... I meant Carolina....
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Other then the underthrown passes, and the sidearming balls, but what about his descision making...
I don't care who the QB is (with the exception of Vick), but if you put just about any other QB in the leauge with the pressure Carr gets, I'm pretty sure there throws and decision making wouldn't be all that great either. The man needs some pass protection. I can't stress that enough. The run blocking has been Ok. But the pass protection SUCKS. They've got to figure out someway to get him some time in the pocket.

Im not trying to say that he doesn't make mistakes, but good lord someone earlier said that we should maybe look at BJ. Why,? so he can set another sack record with the Texans.

As for sidearming balls, thats his throwig motion where the hell have you been.
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Currently... We are either pick 12 or 13... No other games matter. We are tied with the Panthers. Strength of Schedule is the same, I am trying to find the next level so we can find out if we are pick 12 or 13.
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I never said to get rid of him. He is an average QB which would make a great backup.
Avg. QB? You've gotta be ****tin me. Mark Brunell, Bryan Griese, and who else..... Jay Fiedler are avg. QB's give me a break. I think you've been watching to many Indy games and thinking everyone should be just as good as peyton. Wake up and smell the coffee for crying out loud. There are plenty of teams who I'm sure would love to have Carr.

Great Backup. LoL duhh. he's a good QB
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I believe we are currently 13th, with a chance to move up to the 12th pick, if Dallas wins against the Giants tonight. We'd have the same record, but should win the 12th pick by just a couple of winning percentage points.
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I think it better be: trade down: OL< QB< DL< OL OL< OL

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I don't care who the QB is (with the exception of Vick), but if you put just about any other QB in the leauge with the pressure Carr gets, I'm pretty sure there throws and decision making wouldn't be all that great either. The man needs some pass protection. I can't stress that enough. The run blocking has been Ok. But the pass protection SUCKS. They've got to figure out someway to get him some time in the pocket.

Im not trying to say that he doesn't make mistakes, but good lord someone earlier said that we should maybe look at BJ. Why,? so he can set another sack record with the Texans.

As for sidearming balls, thats his throwig motion where the hell have you been.
Where have I been... Amazing..

1. I don't care who the QB is (with the exception of Vick), but if you put just about any other QB in the leauge with the pressure Carr gets, I'm pretty sure there throws and decision making wouldn't be all that great either. Yes... he is rushed, but Carr is NOT as good as most of the starters in the league when being rushed. The O-line is mainly responsible for this, but Carr does not do well when rushed most of the time. He has had his exceptions.

2. As for sidearming balls, thats his throwig motion where the hell have you been. Actually, where have you been??? This throwing motion was not his main delivery stance last year and just started this year with POOR results. He has been questioned on it since people notice it is not helping. You are admitting this is a problem, so you think this is ok apparently. Name another good QB out there that does a sidearm delievery constantly and is good about it... I dont think you can.
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Like it or not, Carr has regressed the second half of this season. His decision making has been questionable at best. There's nothing wrong with looking for a franchise quarterback. Carr is nothing better than average. If he is a franchise QB please provide something to back this up other than the fact that he has been sacked a bunch and still plays the games.
I have been saying since about the middle of the season that he is going to be an inconsistent player. Even when he has time he does not make good decisions regularly enough. Fill in your favorite up and down QB, Collins or Plummer or whoever, and I think you can add Carr to the list.

Since Banks is a FA, I am thinking that the Texans need to sign a veteran QB to be back-up. Unless Ragone or Symmons is progressing better than I suspect, there need to be a QB capable of playing. Honestly, the guy we played today is what I am thinking about.
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I don't care who the QB is (with the exception of Vick), but if you put just about any other QB in the leauge with the pressure Carr gets, I'm pretty sure there throws and decision making wouldn't be all that great either. The man needs some pass protection. I can't stress that enough. The run blocking has been Ok. But the pass protection SUCKS. They've got to figure out someway to get him some time in the pocket.

Im not trying to say that he doesn't make mistakes, but good lord someone earlier said that we should maybe look at BJ. Why,? so he can set another sack record with the Texans.

As for sidearming balls, thats his throwig motion where the hell have you been.
We all know that the line is horrible, but why not challenge Carr to play better? He seems too content right now and that's because he is in no danger of losing his job. You saw how he actually made an effort to get upfield after getting boo'ed today. Bring someone else in to challenge him for his job and maybe we'll see that kind of effort and fire on every play. I am sick and tired of seeing him roll to right and running out of bounds every time there is a hint of pressure.

If there is anyone on this board that thinks Carr is as good as it gets you're myopic. There are good QB's coming out of college every year. I'm not saying that Carr can't take this team to a championship, maybe he can and I hope he does. But let's not sit back and wait for it. If there is a better QB available why not try to get him on this team?
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2. As for sidearming balls, thats his throwig motion where the hell have you been. Actually, where have you been??? This throwing motion was not his main delivery stance last year and just started this year with POOR results. He has been questioned on it since people notice it is not helping. You are admitting this is a problem, so you think this is ok apparently. Name another good QB out there that does a sidearm delievery constantly and is good about it... I dont think you can.
Maybe I'm blind, but i've never seen Carr stand in the pocket and throw a sidearmed ball. The only time i've seen this is with him running out of the pocket.
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