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Default Scouting Report on Schaub: Cheapshot him to DEATH

1. Albert Haynesworth cheaped him over and over and over until he was
injured.

2. Drayton Florence of the Chargers smashed him in the jaw with his HELMET.
Concussion

3. Another Chargers corner karate chopped Matt's shoulder, putting him down
for the remainder of the last season.

4. And yesterday, Jared Allen Goldberg'd Schaub's knee well after the ball was
gone, while his buddy was schoving Matt in the chest. They, in effect,
chop blocked Matt and tore his MCL.

I'm sick of these posters calling Schaub "injury prone." EVERY time he's gone
down, it's due to BLATANT attempts to injure. So, I guess that's what his
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1. Albert Haynesworth cheaped him over and over and over until he was
injured.

2. Drayton Florence of the Chargers smashed him in the jaw with his HELMET.
Concussion

3. Another Chargers corner karate chopped Matt's shoulder, putting him down
for the remainder of the last season.

4. And yesterday, Jared Allen Goldberg'd Schaub's knee well after the ball was
gone, while his buddy was schoving Matt in the chest. They, in effect,
chop blocked Matt and tore his MCL.

I'm sick of these posters calling Schaub "injury prone." EVERY time he's gone
down, it's due to BLATANT attempts to injure. So, I guess that's what his
scouting report says.


And why wouldn't they?

Refs' will look the other way, (it's just the Texans after all ), and our downy soft O and D linemen will NOT retaliate.

Everyone likes a win win situation.

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1. Albert Haynesworth cheaped him over and over and over until he was
injured.

2. Drayton Florence of the Chargers smashed him in the jaw with his HELMET.
Concussion

3. Another Chargers corner karate chopped Matt's shoulder, putting him down
for the remainder of the last season.

4. And yesterday, Jared Allen Goldberg'd Schaub's knee well after the ball was
gone, while his buddy was schoving Matt in the chest. They, in effect,
chop blocked Matt and tore his MCL.

I'm sick of these posters calling Schaub "injury prone." EVERY time he's gone
down, it's due to BLATANT attempts to injure. So, I guess that's what his
scouting report says.

Exactly, everyone in the league is so scared of him that this is they only way they can beat us. Every QB in the league takes these hits, just look at Big Ben in Pittsburgh, he has been hurt the diffrence is he stays on the field more than Schaub.

We can't put a red jersey on him, so he has to find a way to absorb the hits better (I know he can't do anything about the tear) or find another profession.
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Well, until one of them nuts up and decides to take some pride in keeping their QB from getting hurt. I swear sometimes it's like we just shut down the moment the play ends. It feels like we've got some of the biggest cream-puff mentality guys in the entire NFL.

I genuinely want to see this happen the next time Schaub takes a cheap shot. I want to see somebody (on the defense) carted off on the next series and maybe not return that day. I know it probably goes against their grain to do that crap but I watched Allen hit Schaubs knee with just total outrage on my face. I couldn't believe that piece of crap would climb back up to his knees and dive at the QB's leg knowing full well the ball was gone. I pretty much decided that Jared Allen was a turd right there. If our guys never retaliate then it just means our QB's have a big ol' bulls eye on them and it ain't part of the logo.

We need to play a lot meaner. We need someone who is willing to get a little dirty at times. We've all heard about this blocking system and how other teams hate it because they get hurt playing against it. When is that going to happen? I think I'm ready to see some of that.
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And why wouldn't they?

Refs' will look the other way, (it's just the Texans after all ), and our downy soft O and D linemen will NOT retaliate.

Everyone likes a win win situation.

Last year when Florence popped him in the chin , a guy called Kubiak's show and asked why we didn't get hem back and doesn't that make us soft . Kubiak replied ... they didn't teach that kind of football . Think of what would happen if Brady , Manning , Big Ben or any other team who's QB took those types of shots .

In the old (1970 )Raiders and Chiefs games Ben Davidson would squish Len Dawson . Buck Buchanon would kill Daryl lomonica and then George Blanda would come in and win the game .
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Exactly, everyone in the league is so scared of him that this is they only way they can beat us. Every QB in the league takes these hits, just look at Big Ben in Pittsburgh, he has been hurt the diffrence is he stays on the field more than Schaub.
We can't put a red jersey on him, so he has to find a way to absorb the hits better (I know he can't do anything about the tear) or find another profession.
You are absolutely right!. I get so tired of this constant whining like no other QB in the league gets hit like this. Defensive players are after every QB in exactly the same way. Manning, Favre, Brady, They all have learned how to sidestep, get rid of the ball quickly, or take the hit and keep on playing. The game is football, not tea and crumpets. It is not just our sweet little Schaubby that gets picked on all the time by those big mean bad bullies on defense...whine, whine, whine, excuse, excuse, excuse. Geez... man up!
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Well, until one of them nuts up and decides to take some pride in keeping their QB from getting hurt. I swear sometimes it's like we just shut down the moment the play ends. It feels like we've got some of the biggest cream-puff mentality guys in the entire NFL.

I genuinely want to see this happen the next time Schaub takes a cheap shot. I want to see somebody (on the defense) carted off on the next series and maybe not return that day. I know it probably goes against their grain to do that crap but I watched Allen hit Schaubs knee with just total outrage on my face. I couldn't believe that piece of crap would climb back up to his knees and dive at the QB's leg knowing full well the ball was gone. I pretty much decided that Jared Allen was a turd right there. If our guys never retaliate then it just means our QB's have a big ol' bulls eye on them and it ain't part of the logo.

We need to play a lot meaner. We need someone who is willing to get a little dirty at times. We've all heard about this blocking system and how other teams hate it because they get hurt playing against it. When is that going to happen? I think I'm ready to see some of that.

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Thanks for posting this Dexman as I'm glad to know I'm not the only angry one out here!

I said it last year after the Florence hit. We should have come back the next time on defense and leveled someone on their team...Ferotte, AD, or Allen with our offense out there.

I toe the team line on everything that McNair, Smith, and Kubiak give us, but it's a tough game and if a team doesn't show backbone to protect their own, there isn't much hope of playoff caliber football IMO.
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Thanks for posting this Dexman as I'm glad to know I'm not the only angry one out here!

I said it last year after the Florence hit. We should have come back the next time on defense and leveled someone on their team...Ferotte, AD, or Allen with our offense out there.

I toe the team line on everything that McNair, Smith, and Kubiak give us, but it's a tough game and if a team doesn't show backbone to protect their own, there isn't much hope of playoff caliber football IMO.
I'm with you on that one. Allen should've found himself on the receiving end of a few crack back blocks after that cheapshot. This is why we need a mean SOB or two on our OL, and it seems like we're missing that element.
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Well, until one of them nuts up and decides to take some pride in keeping their QB from getting hurt. I swear sometimes it's like we just shut down the moment the play ends. It feels like we've got some of the biggest cream-puff mentality guys in the entire NFL.

I genuinely want to see this happen the next time Schaub takes a cheap shot. I want to see somebody (on the defense) carted off on the next series and maybe not return that day. I know it probably goes against their grain to do that crap but I watched Allen hit Schaubs knee with just total outrage on my face. I couldn't believe that piece of crap would climb back up to his knees and dive at the QB's leg knowing full well the ball was gone. I pretty much decided that Jared Allen was a turd right there. If our guys never retaliate then it just means our QB's have a big ol' bulls eye on them and it ain't part of the logo.

We need to play a lot meaner. We need someone who is willing to get a little dirty at times. We've all heard about this blocking system and how other teams hate it because they get hurt playing against it. When is that going to happen? I think I'm ready to see some of that.
Excellent post.

I respect Bob McNair and I completely understand why he is trying to put together a class organization without the likes of a Terrell Owens or a PacMan Jones. I have no quarrel with that.

But when you go out of your way to get "good guys" on your team, you run the risk of getting guys who are so clean cut that they lack a mean streak. Football is all about the mean streak. Show me a championship team and I'll show you a team with some headhunters on both sides of the ball. I don't see many guys like that on this team or in this organization. That needs to change.
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Here is the cheap shot Jared Allen video. Watch it while you can before the NFL pulls the video. Please please please leave comments to make it a bigger, more searchable story. If this had happened to a QB from a more high profile franchise, the real media would be all over it.

FanHouse: Did Jared Allen Cheap Shot Matt Schaub

The slo mo part is scary. It shows how badly the line got destroyed. It was amazing that Schaub got the ball off and had a completion. And it also shows how cheap that hit was.

Please leave a comment. Don't have to leave a real email and even if you did, they don't do anything with them. Just like the offensive line needs to make a fuss, so do Texan fans.

BTW, shortly after that play, Jared Allen got his shoulder hurt some after he was driven to the ground by one of the Olinemen.
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BTW, shortly after that play, Jared Allen got his shoulder hurt some after he was driven to the ground by one of the Olinemen.
That was Briesel who dove on top of him during a running play. That should've happened more often.
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Sometimes the Texans remind me of the Astros where we'd be getting beaned and our pitchers wouldn't do anything about it. I guess I'm just used to watching my team get cheap-shotted without any consequence. The city of Houston hasn't had someone with any balls on any sports team for a long long time.

FWIW, I thought Allen was playing very dirty and from listening to Kubes this afternoon he turned in 3 plays to the NFL for possible infractions. Doubt anything will come of it but whatever.
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Sometimes the Texans remind me of the Astros where we'd be getting beaned and our pitchers wouldn't do anything about it. I guess I'm just used to watching my team get cheap-shotted without any consequence. The city of Houston hasn't had someone with any balls on any sports team for a long long time.

FWIW, I thought Allen was playing very dirty and from listening to Kubes this afternoon he turned in 3 plays to the NFL for possible infractions. Doubt anything will come of it but whatever.
Good. Let's make a fuss about this. Please, I ask you to leave comments on my blog post on this subject to make it more searchable. We need some righteous indignation so that the NFL cares about this some.

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I was screaming last year it was a friggin joke Haynesworth wasn't fined and/or suspended for the helmet to helmet in the game at Reliant. Then yesterday that crap happens, why aren't the Texans sending these tapes to the league and protesting what happened. If one of our guys did something like this they would be ejected on the spot.
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I think it is one of those things ... schaub hit in the knee .. we will see what happens... if it was brees or favre... (big names) ..all hell breaks lose because people come to see those guys play and NFL takes notice.. we will see if NFL takes notice on Schaub
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Rick Smith needs to take notes from Daryl Morey, and get someone to protect our franchise player.
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Football is a physical sport cant take the heat get out of the kitchen

Drew Brees takes hits he stays pretty healthy

Matt Hasselbeck played healthy for many years

Byron Leftwich has seemed to stay healthy over the years

Jason Campbell was sacked like 6 times today hes still healthy and has been active for along time
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All i seen was Brown push Allen then turn is back to him HAHAHAH rookie mastike

dont let NO one touch your QB even after the whistle

GOd bless 69 who was the weeaver or pitts who tried to save Matty from the chop block but he was a sec to late
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