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Old 11-03-2008   #1
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These are things that I think we need to do.

FA Sign Chris Gamble & Luke McCown

Trades
Trade Sage for a 3rd rd.pick
Trade the 3rd we got for Sage & a 4th for a 2nd rd pick

Trade our 3rd this year & a 2010 3rd for a 09 2nd rd. pick.

My new mock with the three 2nd rd. picks would go something like this

RD1 Curry lb Wake Forest Best lb in draft he is a playmaker

RD2 Alex Mack C-G Cal Best interior OL in draft
RD2 Everette Brown DE Fla. St. Speed rusher lots of potential to improve
RD2 Jonathan Luings C Ark. Powerful tough C can help control Haynesworth
RD5 Marlon Favorite DT LSU Big powerful run stopper
RD6 Kyle Bell RB Col. St Big hard nosed back to compliment Slaton
RD7 Henry Melton DE Tex. Developmental DE played pos. 2 years has talent

If we made these moves our lineup would look like this
Ofense

QB Schaub, McCown
RB Slaton, Moats, Bell
WR Johnson, Walter, Anderson, Davis, Jones
TE Daniels, Dressen, Bruener
RT Winston, Butler
RG Mack, Breisel
C Luings, Myers
LG Pitts, Studdard
LT Brown, Salaam

Defense

DE Williams, Cochran, Bulman, E. Brown
DT Okoye, Robinson, Okam, Favorite
LB Ryans, Diles, Curry, Bentley, Thompson, Coley
CB Gamble, Reeves, Molden
CB Robinson, Bennett, Faggins
SS Ferguson, Brown, Harrison
FS Wilson, Demps

K Brown
P Turk

If we made these moves we would have a young talented OL, a pass rusher opposite Mario, a young playmaker @ lb to go along with Ryans, a young vet. CB to go along with a healthy Robinson & Depth @ DB.

Mr. McNair has to spend money on the 2nd rd.picks & Gamble. This is a pivotal offseason & we need to think outside the box.

Fire Dick Smith, Greir, Hoke, & Riley

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Unless Sage does really well in these next few weeks I don't se anyone giving us a third for him
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Yeah we should've traded him last year when his value was @ its peak.

If he does well will you be on the trade him or keep him bandwagon?

What do you think of the overall plan.

If we cant trade Sage I believe we need to still trade the 3rd & the 4th to move into the 2nd rd. That way we can solidify the interior OL & get the pass rusher we desparately need.

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Yeah we should've traded him last year when his value was @ its peak.

If he does well will you be on the trade him or keep him bandwagon?

What do you think of the overall plan.

If we cant trade Sage I believe we need to still trade the 3rd & the 4th to move into the 2nd rd. That way we can solidify the interior OL & get the pass rusher we desparately need.

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I shudder to think where we would be right now if we had traded Sage.

He's not starter material, but with Schaub out, who would be playing QB?
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Isn't this the last year of Sage's contract?
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I shudder to think where we would be right now if we had traded Sage.

He's not starter material, but with Schaub out, who would be playing QB?
Luke McCown is the same QB as Sage

He has the same background as Sage when he was with MIA.

I wonder what Sage's value is to some people on this board?

!st rd. 2nd or 3rd Pick

We're going to finish 6-10 or 7-9 with Sage

I would rather take my chances with McCown & Mack or Luings than Sage & a 3rd RD. pick.

Loings & Mack can help keep Schaub healthy.
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Isn't this the last year of Sage's contract?
His contract expires in 2010
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I sure hope Sage plays lights out for the rest of the season and drives his value thru the roof so some team like Minn will make a nice offer to take him off our hands ..... Tho I may regret saying that the next time Schaub goes down.
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Off-season plans in the first week of November.....**sigh**
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Off-season plans in the first week of November.....**sigh**
Again ..... /wrist.
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When your team stinks you need to plan ahead to fix the problems.

I hope Rick Smith & the scouts are thinking in pro-active terms.
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I shudder to think where we would be right now if we had traded Sage.

He's not starter material, but with Schaub out, who would be playing QB?
I don't. Had we made that pre-draft trade I think we would've had ample time to pick out a decent replacement for Sage. I do think it would be interesting to see who they would've targeted with that third.

I am hoping this next draft we see a top tier Defensive player who can make an IMMEDIATE impact whether at LB, DE, Safety, or CB. We need a guy who can step in day one and be productive. No more project first rounders.

Second round we need to address the interior of the OL.

After that BPA.

To OP.

Unless by some miracle Sage steps in and plays lights out(for 4 quarters a game guys) during his time as a starter good luck getting the same offer we got from Minnesota.
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These are things that I think we need to do.

FA Sign Chris Gamble & Luke McCown

Trades
Trade Sage for a 3rd rd.pick
Trade the 3rd we got for Sage & a 4th for a 2nd rd pick

Trade our 3rd this year & a 2010 3rd for a 09 2nd rd. pick.

My new mock with the three 2nd rd. picks would go something like this

RD1 Curry lb Wake Forest Best lb in draft he is a playmaker

RD2 Alex Mack C-G Cal Best interior OL in draft
RD2 Everette Brown DE Fla. St. Speed rusher lots of potential to improve
RD2 Jonathan Luings C Ark. Powerful tough C can help control Haynesworth
RD5 Marlon Favorite DT LSU Big powerful run stopper
RD6 Kyle Bell RB Col. St Big hard nosed back to compliment Slaton
RD7 Henry Melton DE Tex. Developmental DE played pos. 2 years has talent

If we made these moves our lineup would look like this
Ofense

QB Schaub, McCown
RB Slaton, Moats, Bell
WR Johnson, Walter, Anderson, Davis, Jones
TE Daniels, Dressen, Bruener
RT Winston, Butler
RG Mack, Breisel
C Luings, Myers
LG Pitts, Studdard
LT Brown, Salaam

Defense

DE Williams, Cochran, Bulman, E. Brown
DT Okoye, Robinson, Okam, Favorite
LB Ryans, Diles, Curry, Bentley, Thompson, Coley
CB Gamble, Reeves, Molden
CB Robinson, Bennett, Faggins
SS Ferguson, Brown, Harrison
FS Wilson, Demps

K Brown
P Turk

If we made these moves we would have a young talented OL, a pass rusher opposite Mario, a young playmaker @ lb to go along with Ryans, a young vet. CB to go along with a healthy Robinson & Depth @ DB.

Mr. McNair has to spend money on the 2nd rd.picks & Gamble. This is a pivotal offseason & we need to think outside the box.

Fire Dick Smith, Greir, Hoke, & Riley

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in general terms I like alot of your ideas. I hope the Texans finish the season strong but if they don't I would be in favor of trading back to aquire more picks if not gotta take bpa.

1st- OLB/bpa
2nd- OL/DL bpa
3rd- DL/OL bpa
4th- RB/S bpa
5th- S/RB bpa
6th- DB/bpa
7th- DB/bpa
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I really want us to get either Mack or Luings.

It would complete our OL.

We really need to try to get another 2nd rd pick. That would allow us to get the pass rusher & C-G that we really need.
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Any chance we can get Kyle Orton?


My OS plan would be to first resign/extend our FA. OD, DeMeco, Dunta. Whoever is off the books or coming close to being off, that we deem important to our franchise, we need to give them a new contract.

I would also try to redo Schaub contract. If's he willing to restructure it then I would keep him, if not then let him walk. I bet he would be willing to do it, considering how deep his stock plummeted down the sh!tter. He would be getting a deal worth around his value here, if not alittle more then other team will pay if he's a FA, and won't have to learn a new playbook or scheme.

If we have any money left then I would go for a back-up RB like Correll Buckhalter or Maurice Morris. I would also try and get a back-up QB like JP Lossman or Kyle Boller, assuming that Smith/Kubiak intend to trade Sage or unwilling to offer an extension to his contract.

Next, I would go into the draft with a need board like this:

1-DE
2-S/C/RG
3-DE(2)/DT/S
4-S/C/RG
5-OLB
6-BPA
7-BPA


Here's the list of the upcoming FA.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/freeagents.html

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I hope Sage plays well & increases his trade value.

If he plays well & we can get a 3rd for him we should take it & sin another backup QB as you suggested.

Then maybe we can draft an interior OL that we badly need.

Have you noticed that Schaub has gotten hurt whenever we play teams with great DT's.

This year Min. Wiiliams

Last year SD Jamal Williams & Tacks Haynesworth.
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I hope Sage plays well & increases his trade value.

If he plays well & we can get a 3rd for him we should take it & sin another backup QB as you suggested.

Then maybe we can draft an interior OL that we badly need.

Have you noticed that Schaub has gotten hurt whenever we play teams with great DT's.

This year Min. Wiiliams

Last year SD Jamal Williams & Tacks Haynesworth.
Sage could become an item so don't expect the Texans to trade him for anything less than a 2nd with their franchise QB on imagine a franchise (Texans) that's had only one 2nd rd. pick, in like the last four drafts, to suddenly have two 2nd's in one that would send draft geeks into a frenzy of
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in general terms I like alot of your ideas. I hope the Texans finish the season strong but if they don't I would be in favor of trading back to aquire more picks if not gotta take bpa.

1st- OLB/bpa
2nd- OL/DL bpa
3rd- DL/OL bpa
4th- RB/S bpa
5th- S/RB bpa
6th- DB/bpa
7th- DB/bpa
with Diles out (similar injury to Weary/Spencer) OLB is clearly #1 NEED
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It would send the geeks into a frenzy.

It would also allow us to pick up 3 of the 5 starters that we need to become a complete team.

I agree OLB is our most pressing need. That is true regardless of how well Adibi does.
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