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Old 11-02-2008   #21
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Both our tackles got beat like a drum all day long. God, did you see Ray Edwards(who?) abused Winston and threw him down like a rag doll in the 1st quarter. The inside protection wasn't any better either.
Give them a chance to gel.
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The loss is on the offense today. Both Schaub and Rosenfels made huge mistakes at crucial points in the game. O-line was terrible and even I could've probably sacked the qb today with the way the interior was penetrating our line. Tough loss but I don't see the need for drastic changes. But I will say though again that the running plays were suspect. Why did the Texans insist on running running right up the middle of the Vikings when you know that's where their strength is??? Didn't make any sense to me.
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You saw him begging to get out the game?
Against Tennessee (2007, 2008)
Against the Steelers (2008)
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I thought I was the only one...

It looked like IMO...i'm not a football genius...but IMO it looked like the Vikings got pressure with their front 4...and if you can get pressure with 4 guys...you can focus on the pass which is our strentgh and they took that away because they have a better Dline than we have a Oline.
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Against Tennessee (2007, 2008)
Against the Steelers (2008)
Hmm funny, never seen that.
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Fragile Mattie

Can't take a hit
seems generally affraid of defenses at times
can't stay healthy

At the end of the day Matt is basically Daunte Culpepper:

A mediocre QB that looks good because he has the best WR in the NFL to throw to
Quoted for truth.

It's why I have Schaub Radley as my avatar. Matt, on the sideline, looks like Boo Radley from "To Kill A Mockingbird." He looks like the sickly kid whose parents have kept inside his whole life.

Of course, Sage is...well, he's Rosencopter.

So we're pretty much screwed until we can obtain a QB who knows how to win under PRESSURE. Consistently.

I stand by my assertion that Matt Schaub is not going to hack it. He looks good against mediocre defenses, but he crumbles like gingerbread under pressure. Pure fact. And you say, "Well, so does Sage." So damn what! The propped up QB King (Matt) isn't supposed to be worse than Sage. LOL. But there he was, watching from the sideline again.

The Vikings defense didn't have as much pep in their step with Sage taking the snaps. They started covering Texans receivers more than trying to blitz Sage. The blitzing subsiding considerably, I'd say, without even looking at the actual play-by-play.

Matt has legs of sand in the pocket.

Oh, and I think I deserve a freaking apology from all the posters here who bullied me all last week for DARING to even question the 3-straight-game winning streak. Where'd we end up? Falling flat, on the road, against a beatable team.

4-straight games at home, against piss poor teams, will do wonders for your record fellas.

This offense is POTENT. It's clicking. But the setback at QB, both of 'em, is glaring. Isn't it?

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It's why I have Schaub Radley as my avatar. Matt, on the sideline, looks like Boo Radley from "To Kill A Mockingbird." He looks like the sickly kid whose parents have kept inside his whole life.

Of course, Sage is...well, he's Rosencopter.

So we're pretty much screwed until we can obtain a QB who knows how to win under PRESSURE. Consistently.

I stand by my assertion that Matt Schaub is not going to hack it. He looks good against mediocre defenses, but he crumbles like gingerbread under pressure. Pure fact. And you say, "Well, so does Sage." So damn what! The propped up QB King (Matt) isn't supposed to be worse than Sage. LOL. But there he was, watching from the sideline again.

The Vikings defense didn't have as much pep in their step with Sage taking the snaps. They started covering Texans receivers more than trying to blitz Sage. The blitzing subsiding considerably, I'd say, without even looking at the actual play-by-play.

Matt has legs of sand in the pocket.

Oh, and I think I deserve a freaking apology from all the posters here who bullied me all last week for DARING to even question the 3-straight-game winning streak. Where'd we end up? Falling flat, on the road, against a beatable team.

4-straight games at home, against piss poor teams, will do wonders for your record fellas.

This offense is POTENT. It's clicking. But the setback at QB, both of 'em, os glaring. Isn't it?

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Awsome man, way to show your support!
Making fun of both our QB's in your sig. and avatar!
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We were just talking about how great our offense was last week.
We were playing an 0-7 team last week. The week before that was an 0-6 team.

Catch my drift?
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Awsome man, way to show your support!
Making fun of both our QB's in your sig. and avatar!
Making fun of them?

How about this: I'm trying to have some freaking LEVITY considering the fact that our QB situation is absurd.

What else am I going to do? Pretend we're just a few plays away from being a legitimate NFL team? I prefer to live in reality 90% of the time, and during that 90% of the time Im going to do whatever I can to lighten the harshness of said reality.

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I thought I was the only one...

It looked like IMO...i'm not a football genius...but IMO it looked like the Vikings got pressure with their front 4...and if you can get pressure with 4 guys...you can focus on the pass which is our strentgh and they took that away because they have a better Dline than we have a Oline.
The Vikings have the best D-Line in the NFL, hands down. We have a rookie LT and an average RT. Of COURSE the QB's were going to get manhandled. But when it comes down to it, we were in the game right up into the last 30 seconds against a VERY good defense. Sure, the QB's made a couple of bad mistakes, but I still pin this on the defense for allowing Gus Frerotte to look like Dan Marino in his prime.
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so whats the verdict on next year do we give Matty another Go or do we kick him to the curve ??????

right now hes making a good case for himself to be kicked to the curve IMO

this is the mid way point of the season BTW

Killed by pitts
Killed by tenn
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Didnt play wk 4
played even with Fins
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and injured by half in Minn

thats not a very good report card IMO
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Well we still have a lot of season left. If we go with right now...might as well keep him because we have much bigger needs than just QB. Our interior Oline isn't very good...which is why we get destroyed by 3-4 teams and teams with good DTs...and our secondary...as usual....sucks. Our front 7 has improved and our Reciving players do a great job of winning/keeping us in games. I just see much bigger needs than QB right now.
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so whats the verdict on next year do we give Matty another Go or do we kick him to the curve ??????

right now hes making a good case for himself to be kicked to the curve IMO

this is the mid way point of the season BTW

Killed by pitts
Killed by tenn
PLayed even with Jaxs
Didnt play wk 4
played even with Fins
beat a loser team
beat a loser team
and injured by half in Minn

thats not a very good report card IMO

Killed By Tenn? Not at all
Even with fins? looked good got the W
Loser teams? We are also a loser team, a win is a win.
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Well we still have a lot of season left. If we go with right now...might as well keep him because we have much bigger needs than just QB. Our interior Oline isn't very good...which is why we get destroyed by 3-4 teams and teams with good DTs...and our secondary...as usual....sucks. Our front 7 has improved and our Reciving players do a great job of winning/keeping us in games. I just see much bigger needs than QB right now.
I think it comes down to wether Matt is worth the cap hit or not. He can be cut next year with no implications.

May want to sign a cheap game manager until the 2010 NFL draft when guys like Sanchez and Bradford will come out as seniors
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i dont follow the college scene what are the top 3 QB that will fit are system he in Houston
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i dont follow the college scene what are the top 3 QB that will fit are system he in Houston
Better question is which punter best fits into our special teams scheme methinks.
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I think we need secondary help more than anything...I know the frustrations with the QB but I mean if we are going to keep Matt...lets at least get a defense, a good safety could really turn around our defense, look at what Reed/Polamalu/Sanders do for their teams. We may draft high enough to get one too
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thats true i think we deff need to Get a new Center and tackle

and this hurts me to say this but our TE OD needs to stop playing WR he needs to block more now and help our QB stay alive

we will just live and die on are WR is guess

heck even Leech needs to pass rush block and let slaton fend for himself LOL
There is nothing wrong with our tackles.......Brown is a rookie so he's going to get better and there is nothing wrong with Winston. Trust me the FO is definetely not looking for his replacement.....even probowl tackles struggle against some matchups sometimes, this is the NFL...you're not going to kick ass every Sunday, especially against a Dline like that.

However I do think we need a new Center.....I was never on Myers bandwagon (after I saw how easily he was moved during preseason), he's too light in the pants and gets tossed around like a doll.

If anything Houston needs a new center and RG......tackles are fine.

As far as keeping our TE in to block....he's not going to be there to pick off the fat boys coming up the middle. Owens was much more helpful and keeping our QBs safe as a emergency outlet pass option when they were under pressure.......he saved them more then a few times by getting open in the middle of the field, which is why he had a big day.
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Better question is which punter best fits into our special teams scheme methinks.
anybody is better then Turk IMO

Remember last year when he couldnt even fall on a ball a cost us a TD aganist The chargers man that day was a ol school Beat Down
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I am beginning to agree with Haynesworth re: Schaub. I'll give him until the end of the year to set his legacy, but if it's more of the same, I think the team has to start prepping for the future.
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