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Old 11-02-2008   #1
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Post Problem #1) We give games away!

"So many missed opportunities"

How many times have you said this after a Texans loss?

Its too much to watch
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Old 11-02-2008   #2
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Default Re: Problem #1) We give games away!

I do not watch Texans games anymore. Not after the Indy game.

The way I see it, I have suffered enough in 6 + years of crappy football, and the Indy game was the last straw.

The Texans owe the fans a kick ass victory, and until we get it, I am not watching them play.
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Default Re: Problem #1) We give games away!

That's what I thought throughout the game. So many wasted opporunities to take control of the game.
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Default Re: Problem #1) We give games away!

yup, i kept hearing mike singletary. "we're not a charity! we cannot give them the game!" that's atleast 2 losses now that have been gift-wrapped.
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The Texans owe the fans a kick ass victory, and until we get it, I am not watching them play.
How will you be able to watch them get a "kick ass victory" unless you're watching them play? Check your DVR and watch the Bengals game from last week.
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Default Re: Problem #1) We give games away!

The Texans didn't give the game away. The Vikings played better. Kicking the Bengals' collective butt was a feel good moment, but not an indicator of where the team is. This game is more like the Texans, because they often play this way.

Fans think the very best game their team plays is how good they are and anything less is giving it away. I don't think that is true. The Texans play up and down but hover around average now. That is what they are.
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diagree, the texans gave it away with the turnovers as USUAL
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Our QBs turning the ball over has been THE most important aspect of why our record what it is today. Period.
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Ya the Texans gave it away with Turnovers.
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diagree, the texans gave it away with the turnovers as USUAL
Sometimes the other team is better. If fans want to claim losses are all because of player and coach incompetence...I don't know. The team is even more pathetic if that is the case.
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The Texans didn't give the game away. The Vikings played better. Kicking the Bengals' collective butt was a feel good moment, but not an indicator of where the team is. This game is more like the Texans, because they often play this way.

Fans think the very best game their team plays is how good they are and anything less is giving it away. I don't think that is true. The Texans play up and down but hover around average now. That is what they are.
Two turnovers in the red zone = giving the game away.
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Two turnovers in the red zone = giving the game away.
That's your definition anyway.

I guess I can accept it if it is NOT then used to spin that the Texans are play-off caliber or "elite" since they never really get beat by other teams.

They are 3-5, not 6-2 because they never really "got beat".
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Default Re: Problem #1) We give games away!

Yeah, I gotta agree the turnovers didn't help at all.......I mean they only lost by 7 points and they gave the ball up inside the endzone twice.

Anyways, do any of y'all ever just sit and count the points we leave off the board....whether it be TO's in the endzone, TOs in the redzone, or failed 4th down attempts in the redzone.

I haven't written it all down, but I'm pretty damn confident that Houston would be challenging for the #1 scoring offense in the league if they could just protect the ball when they get down there....that's what's really costing us games, well besides the pass defense.
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That's your definition anyway.

I guess I can accept it if it is NOT then used to spin that the Texans are play-off caliber or "elite" since they never really get beat by other teams.

They are 3-5, not 6-2 because they never really "got beat".
I don't think anybody is trying to "live in denial" here.....we're just stating facts, when you turn the ball over in the endzone or redzone in games that you're barely losing it's going to cost you football games. Houston has been shooting themselves in the foot all season..leaving points off the board all season.

We probably would be atleast a .500 football team if this team could just protect the damn ball. The TO differential is crazy and that's what is going to lose you ball games in this league.

Your avatar sums the team up well by the way.......think of the top of that hill as the endzone.
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I don't think anybody is trying to "live in denial" here.....
Really? Did you see the predictions for play-offs and finishing the season without another loss after beating the Bengals like a drum? I took a lot of grief for not buying into that vision.


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we're just stating facts,
The fact I am stating is that the other teams deserve credit for beating the Texans.
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Theres a difference in losing because the other team is superior and losing because of your own stupid mistakes. Both result in a loss, and both mean that you were the worse team on sunday. But IMO today WE lost the game, the Vikings didn't win the game.

Schaub underthrows a WIDE open Vonta Leach on a surefire TD AND it results in an INT. Something was going on with Schaub, bc thats a throw I could have made

Fred Bennet drops an INT that hits him in the hands, chest, and then hands again when no one is near him. He has a clear route to the end zone. Thats a catch anyone should make

Sage's throw into double coverage was questionable, but a good play by the Vikings. The other two had nothing to do with the Vikes


Anyway, today's game could be seen either way. The Vikes did play a great game, and so they do dserve credit. The Colts was on us completely
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Really? Did you see the predictions for play-offs and finishing the season without another loss after beating the Bengals like a drum? I took a lot of grief for not buying into that vision.
Trust me I wasn't one of those people.......I was at the Detroit game where they almost gave up a 21-0 lead to a 0-6 Lions team.

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The fact I am stating is that the other teams deserve credit for beating the Texans.
Yes they do, they have done a good job at forcing and capitalizing on Houston's TOs, but Houston still needs to learn how to protect the ball, especially in the redzone.
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Theres a difference in losing because the other team is superior and losing because of your own stupid mistakes. Both result in a loss, and both mean that you were the worse team on sunday. But IMO today WE lost the game, the Vikings didn't win the game.

Schaub underthrows a WIDE open Vonta Leach on a surefire TD AND it results in an INT. Something was going on with Schaub, bc thats a throw I could have made

Fred Bennet drops an INT that hits him in the hands, chest, and then hands again when no one is near him. He has a clear route to the end zone. Thats a catch anyone should make

Sage's throw into double coverage was questionable, but a good play by the Vikings. The other two had nothing to do with the Vikes


Anyway, today's game could be seen either way. The Vikes did play a great game, and so they do dserve credit. The Colts was on us completely
I wouldn't say the Vikes didn't win the game.......it's a little of both. Houston lost the game, but the Vikes still won it. They took advantage of ( Jacque) every opportunity that was given to them........unlike Bennett on that easy pick 6.

Vikings took advantage of game changing plays....Houston had a couple plays (also remember the big drop on the first drive by AJ) and did not.
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I find it funny on HT.com they have Reeves listed as player of the game.
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"So many missed opportunities"

How many times have you said this after a Texans loss?

Its too much to watch
You mean generally outplaying teams and then doing crap like failing to run out the clock by turning the ball over, or redzone/endzone turnovers?

Enough of them already.
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