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Old 11-02-2008   #21
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Here's the explanation from Da General's game summary in the Chronic.

So Kubiak & baby Shanahan couldn't get the call into Rosenfels in time? And they let the Rosencopter make the call on a key 3rd & 1? Another case of Kubiak's indecisions that costs wins.
Absolutely classic. Did anyone else catch coach Gibbs drop an F-bomb right at Rosenfels after that beauty? Almost made me feel better, almost.
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Absolutely classic. Did anyone else catch coach Gibbs drop an F-bomb right at Rosenfels after that beauty? Almost made me feel better, almost.
yeah, that was great haha.
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Schaub got hit in the knees twice, and tried to gut it out and was pulled by the coach, that doesn't make him soft.

Kubiak should have pulled Matt out right after he was hobbling around. 1. he was a liability, proven by that pick which was Leach touchdown waiting. 2. He could have been hurt even further and miss more time. Matt is the starter in my eyes for sure, but once he was hurt there is no need to risk further injury, the drop off to Sage is not that bad in that situation.

Next. 3rd and 1 in the redzone, run the ball, if you don't get it, kick the FG it would have been a 4 point game at the time. Another coaching mistake IMO, along with not challenging the "1st down" didn't exist.
Before Schaub even got up, I told Joe Texan he was injured...........and Kubiak would not take him out until he screwed up.

As far as the 3rd and 1..............this is just one of many examples of poor play calling that places our QBs is precarious situations that in themselves dictate high risk.............remember, our QBs DON'T call their own plays, nor do they have the liberty to unilaterally change a play in major ways at the LOS.
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Before Schaub even got up, I told Joe Texan he was injured...........and Kubiak would not take him out until he screwed up.

As far as the 3rd and 1..............this is just one of many examples of poor play calling that places our QBs is precarious situations that in themselves dictate high risk.............remember, our QBs DON'T call their own plays, nor do they have the liberty to unilaterally change a play in major ways at the LOS.

Its ture are QB have no freedom in play calling

and they dont warrent that freedom due to there playing ability

got to win a Few PLayoff games and championships to get that freedom
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As far as the 3rd and 1..............this is just one of many examples of poor play calling that places our QBs is precarious situations that in themselves dictate high risk.............remember, our QBs DON'T call their own plays, .
As I understand what went on, a play was sent in but at the 15 second mark the communications system shuts off and Sage couldn't hear it so he called the pass that went for the INT. Too slow getting the play in allowed Sage to call the bad play. Sounds like two screw ups on one play to me.
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Its ture are QB have no freedom in play calling

and they dont warrent that freedom due to there playing ability

got to win a Few PLayoff games and championships to get that freedom
That hasn't helped Kubiak much, has it?
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Default Re: Problems in the Vikings game.

It seems to me that pure and simple that whoever is QB for this team, that turnovers have lost us every game this season. It's really that simple. The rest of our offense doesn't make turnovers. It's really only the QB that's making mistakes and they're costly ones. Schaub's pass to a wide open Vonta was a mistake that could've been avoided and he still doesn't cover and protect the ball when getting a sack. He knew the sack was coming and he still didn't protect. Sage may have made the play call as someone suggested, but at the end of the day he still threw it into double coverage.

Yeah there were a lot of things that we did wrong this game, but the bottom line was we lost because we can't protect the ball.
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