Problems in the Vikings game. - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

Mari-OWNED! · 11-02-2008

Bennett drops easy pick. (Probably would've been pick 6)
Sage throws dumb INT into double coverage on 3rd and 1 in the redzone. (Run the ball we have two plays for 1 freaking yard!)
Matt Schaub is a softie.

Am I missing anything?

BSofA04 · 11-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Mari-OWNED!

Bennett drops easy pick. (Probably would've been pick 6)
Sage throws dumb INT into double coverage on 3rd and 1 in the redzone. (Run the ball we have two plays for 1 freaking yard!)
Matt Schaub is a softie.

Am I missing anything?

False start penalties.

TheIronDuke · 11-02-2008

Our "franchise" left tackle can't play a whole game and when he does he gets destroyed.

Reeves still sucks.

At least you're sticking with this user name instead of your "RosenfelsismyQB" name.

**Specnatz** · 11-02-2008

I am not one to ***** about refs but I want to know who get the most penalties called against an a opponent or I should say least.

New_Texans · 11-02-2008

Schaub got hurt on after being hit in the knee 2 times! in the knees on missed roughing the passer (low blow) calls.

dtran04 · 11-02-2008

First hit to the knee was okay....2nd one could have been a penalty. He dove right at the legs.

Dan B. · 11-02-2008

I'm not going to argue that the hits on Schaub weren't questionable, nor would I argue that Tennessee's DL is as pure as the driven snow, however...

The problem with the Texans today was the OL. I couldn't pinpoint which interior linemen were getting owned every play, but the DL's simply humiliated our guys today. If I were Myers, Briesel, or Pitts I would be embarrassed to show my face around town this week. In addition Brown had his worst game of the season against Allen. We can complain about Allen or Haynesworth's late hits all we want, but we need to get to the point where they aren't there to make the late hit anyway. Especially when our entire offensive line philosophy is built around questionably legal blocks, we can't necessarily resort to complaining that the other guy's linemen are cheaters.

We have an explosive offense when we aren't going against elite DL's (and I would qualify both TEN and MIN as having elite defensive lines -- arguably the best in football). Until our OL can take them on as well, we will be exposed against teams that build around the line.

**Hardcore Texan** · 11-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Mari-OWNED!

Bennett drops easy pick. (Probably would've been pick 6)
Sage throws dumb INT into double coverage on 3rd and 1 in the redzone. (Run the ball we have two plays for 1 freaking yard!)
Matt Schaub is a softie.

Am I missing anything?

Schaub got hit in the knees twice, and tried to gut it out and was pulled by the coach, that doesn't make him soft.

Kubiak should have pulled Matt out right after he was hobbling around. 1. he was a liability, proven by that pick which was Leach touchdown waiting. 2. He could have been hurt even further and miss more time. Matt is the starter in my eyes for sure, but once he was hurt there is no need to risk further injury, the drop off to Sage is not that bad in that situation.

Next. 3rd and 1 in the redzone, run the ball, if you don't get it, kick the FG it would have been a 4 point game at the time. Another coaching mistake IMO, along with not challenging the "1st down" didn't exist.

**ATXtexanfan** · 11-02-2008

turnovers lead to the loss again, schaub still sucks, would have been a td to vonta, oh well

**Hagar** · 11-02-2008

We're still soft up the middle on both the offensive and defensive lines. O'line play was very poor across the board.

Yankee_In_TX · 11-02-2008

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Originally Posted by ATXtexanfan

turnovers lead to the loss again

Fix it coaches. I don't care how, or why, or what you do. It's effing ridiculous losing to teams we generally outplay. Especially redzone turnovers. WTF?!?!?

gary · 11-02-2008

Go to todays gameday thread to read my thoughts on todays game.

**Ryan** · 11-02-2008

O-Line is far from great, they always get handled against good D-Lines.

Both of our QB's aren't very good.

The secondary.

Two redzone TO's.

Questionable personell moves.

2nd half Run D. (They were just tired)

A couple of costly penalties.

A retarded ref call on that 3rd and short.

**eriadoc** · 11-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Yankee_In_TX

Fix it coaches. I don't care how, or why, or what you do. It's effing ridiculous losing to teams we generally outplay. Especially redzone turnovers. WTF?!?!?

The turnovers all come from one position. Kubiak has been all over those two players, and it's apparent at this point that they are just not capable of protecting the ball under pressure. The only fix is to fire the players in question, and that's obviously not happening.

**eriadoc** · 11-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Mari-OWNED!

Bennett drops easy pick. (Probably would've been pick 6)
Sage throws dumb INT into double coverage on 3rd and 1 in the redzone. (Run the ball we have two plays for 1 freaking yard!)
Matt Schaub is a softie.

Am I missing anything?

Cornerbacks, especially Reeves. They just flat aren't good enough to hold up against fast WRs.

dtran04 · 11-02-2008

It is worth noting that Sage was the one that made the 3rd and 1 play call. The communication went out and he had to call a play. That's why the play was such a failure.

**eriadoc** · 11-02-2008

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Originally Posted by dtran04

It is worth noting that Sage was the one that made the 3rd and 1 play call. The communication went out and he had to call a play. That's why the play was such a failure.

Sage Rosenfails again?

Norg · 11-02-2008

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Originally Posted by Mari-OWNED!

Bennett drops easy pick. (Probably would've been pick 6)
Sage throws dumb INT into double coverage on 3rd and 1 in the redzone. (Run the ball we have two plays for 1 freaking yard!)
Matt Schaub is a softie.

Am I missing anything?

i not knocking bennett he played pretty solid today and i would rather have him in the Faggins

Sage took a gamble i kinda like it if AJ had caught the ball yall would be praising sage & AJ the way salton was playing anywayz who to say we would even got the 1 yard did u see how many purps win in the box on that play up the middle the way they where playing i dont we would of got it

deff tho a QB sneak dive up the middle would of been fine there Sage was fresh and we should of let him get dirty on that play

Shoulda coulda woulda tho

and yeah your right Matt is a softie

will742 · 11-02-2008

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Originally Posted by TheIronDuke

Our "franchise" left tackle can't play a whole game and when he does he gets destroyed.

Hopefully a full NFL conditioning offseason will help fix this.

**Lucky** · 11-02-2008

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Originally Posted by dtran04

It is worth noting that Sage was the one that made the 3rd and 1 play call. The communication went out and he had to call a play. That's why the play was such a failure.

Here's the explanation from Da General's game summary in the Chronic.

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As the play clock ticked down, Rosenfels changed the play because his communication device with Kubiak had been shut down at the required 15 seconds. In that situation, he had the freedom to make the call, and rather than play it safe, he went for the touchdown. Safety Madieu Williams intercepted the pass intended for Kevin Walter at the 2.

So Kubiak & baby Shanahan couldn't get the call into Rosenfels in time? And they let the Rosencopter make the call on a key 3rd & 1? Another case of Kubiak's indecisions that costs wins.

11-02-2008	#1
Mari-OWNED! Bucco Bruce Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, TX Age: 25 Posts: 659 Rep Power: 1253	Problems in the Vikings game. Bennett drops easy pick. (Probably would've been pick 6) Sage throws dumb INT into double coverage on 3rd and 1 in the redzone. (Run the ball we have two plays for 1 freaking yard!) Matt Schaub is a softie. Am I missing anything?

11-02-2008	#3
TheIronDuke Disabled List Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Houston Age: 34 Posts: 3,118 Rep Power: 20204	Re: Problems in the Vikings game. Our "franchise" left tackle can't play a whole game and when he does he gets destroyed. Reeves still sucks. At least you're sticking with this user name instead of your "RosenfelsismyQB" name.

11-02-2008	#4
Specnatz Site Contributor Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 8,620 Rep Power: 3239	Re: Problems in the Vikings game. I am not one to ***** about refs but I want to know who get the most penalties called against an a opponent or I should say least. __________________ The Invisible Poster! Cynic at work, do not mind me; move along nothing to see here!

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New_Texans All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 24 Posts: 672 Rep Power: 28	Re: Problems in the Vikings game. Schaub got hurt on after being hit in the knee 2 times! in the knees on missed roughing the passer (low blow) calls. __________________ Amobi wan Jacoby

11-02-2008	#6
dtran04 Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 27 Posts: 1,456 Rep Power: 1226	Re: Problems in the Vikings game. First hit to the knee was okay....2nd one could have been a penalty. He dove right at the legs.

11-02-2008	#7
Dan B. Hall of Fame Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: by the construction Age: 35 Posts: 6,214 Rep Power: 17412	Re: Problems in the Vikings game. I'm not going to argue that the hits on Schaub weren't questionable, nor would I argue that Tennessee's DL is as pure as the driven snow, however... The problem with the Texans today was the OL. I couldn't pinpoint which interior linemen were getting owned every play, but the DL's simply humiliated our guys today. If I were Myers, Briesel, or Pitts I would be embarrassed to show my face around town this week. In addition Brown had his worst game of the season against Allen. We can complain about Allen or Haynesworth's late hits all we want, but we need to get to the point where they aren't there to make the late hit anyway. Especially when our entire offensive line philosophy is built around questionably legal blocks, we can't necessarily resort to complaining that the other guy's linemen are cheaters. We have an explosive offense when we aren't going against elite DL's (and I would qualify both TEN and MIN as having elite defensive lines -- arguably the best in football). Until our OL can take them on as well, we will be exposed against teams that build around the line.

11-02-2008	#9
ATXtexanfan Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: leander, tx Age: 35 Posts: 2,548 Rep Power: 3467	Re: Problems in the Vikings game. turnovers lead to the loss again, schaub still sucks, would have been a td to vonta, oh well

11-02-2008	#10
Hagar Drink up yall, its the Texans! Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 47 Posts: 2,066 Rep Power: 8879	Re: Problems in the Vikings game. We're still soft up the middle on both the offensive and defensive lines. O'line play was very poor across the board.

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Ryan THIS YEAR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beaumont,Tx Section: Section 135, Row F Posts: 4,939 Rep Power: 8795	Re: Problems in the Vikings game. O-Line is far from great, they always get handled against good D-Lines. Both of our QB's aren't very good. The secondary. Two redzone TO's. Questionable personell moves. 2nd half Run D. (They were just tired) A couple of costly penalties. A retarded ref call on that 3rd and short. __________________ Wise men know their limits. Great men have no limits.

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