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Old 11-02-2008   #61
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could be worse...we could be Cowboy fans and be hating things even more.
The Cowboys have way more "studs" than we do - especially on defense - they should be upset.
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Good move by Kubiak to put Sage in there with Matt both ineffective & gimpy. I wonder about his loyalty to "his guys" but that represented choosing a better option under the circumstances. our OL still needs upgrading both in pass protection & the running game while the running game needs a bruiser.
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Yep. His team was in position to score and tie the game twice.... his QB blew it. You could probably make the argument that Kubiak blew it when trading for Schaub though. Sure would've love to see how the #1 rated prospect in the 2007 draft, Brady Quinn, would have done for our team.
LOL! Rated #1 by who? Mel Hairgel?
Please.
Quinn couldn't even unseat Derek Alexander.
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Good move by Kubiak to put Sage in there with Matt both ineffective & gimpy. I wonder about his loyalty to "his guys" but that represented choosing a better option under the circumstances. our OL still needs upgrading both in pass protection & the running game while the running game needs a bruiser.
True statements. Their D-line beat up our O-line pure & simple. We have Slaton. They have Peterson, Chester Taylor, and a pretty good O-line.

We're still building.
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We're still building.

I hate this phrase with a passion. I think we've been a team too long now to use this excuse.
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I hate this phrase with a passion. I think we've been a team too long now to use this excuse.
I think this is an accurate statement.

We still need a Center, a RG, a full time RB, a QB, OLB, DE, both DT's, and Safeties.

There are only so many rounds in the draft and we have been in cap hell the past three years so we have been unable to plug holes because of it.

This team is one good off season away from being a real good football team.
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We need someone to light a fire under the Texans .I just do not know who it should be with our group of choir boys.
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I hate this phrase with a passion. I think we've been a team too long now to use this excuse.
its not an "excuse".

it is reality.

Take a hard look at our roster... especially our O-line or our defense.
Who on our roster would make a playoff quality team besides Mario and Andre?? Maybe a healthy Dunta or DeMeco. Possibly O.D. That's it.
How many guys that we've had to keep could make the Titans or the Giants or the Redskins or the Steelers or even the hated Cowboys??
Who else would Jacque Reeves or Petey Faggins be starting for? Did we not pick up Eugene Wilson off the street?
Who else would be starting Morlon Greenwood or Anthony Weaver or Travis Johnson??
Kevin Walter might be a 3rd WR on those teams but not a #2.
Would Myers be a starting center on any of those teams? Would Brisiel start?

We're getting better. And that's probably what's so frustrating. We're almost there. But the plain fact is, we've still got improve our defense and O-line more before our team reaches playoff quality.
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could be worse...we could be Cowboy fans and be hating things even more.
Not really. I'm feeling much better about being their fan.
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We did it the reset Button in 2006 so that could be another reason has well

if it keeps going like this we might have to hit that reset button again Early
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There are only so many rounds in the draft and we have been in cap hell the past three years so we have been unable to plug holes because of it.
If I'm not mistaken, the Titans were in worse cap hell just as recently.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Titans were in worse cap hell just as recently.
I thought they were better off than us. I seem to recall the talking heads giving them grief because they wouldn't go out and sign a big name WR since they had the cash....
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I thought they were better off than us. I seem to recall the talking heads giving them grief because they wouldn't go out and sign a big name WR since they had the cash....
All that cash freed up when their cap problems were resolved. They've really turned it around.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Titans were in worse cap hell just as recently.
That is a great point. It just shows that they know how to rebuild better than we know how to build period.

They drafted both Dline and Oline players early and often and just recently signed their bookend tackles to longterm deals.

We did good these past 3 years taking Mario, Okoye and Duane early, but we need to get away from trading or using our 2nd and 3rd round picks for offensive skill players until we can solidify our offensive line and entire defense.

Once you have a good defense and a solid offensive line, the skill players will show up.
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That is a great point. It just shows that they know how to rebuild better than we know how to build period.

They drafted both Dline and Oline players early and often and just recently signed their bookend tackles to longterm deals.

We did good these past 3 years taking Mario, Okoye and Duane early, but we need to get away from trading or using our 2nd and 3rd round picks for offensive skill players until we can solidify our offensive line and entire defense.

Once you have a good defense and a solid offensive line, the skill players will show up.
Yep.
Time to upgrade those areas.
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LOL! Rated #1 by who? Mel Hairgel?
Please.
Quinn couldn't even unseat Derek Alexander.
By Scott Wright. Who else? I don't read any other draft gurus.

oh and the who the hell is Derek Alexander? You mean Derek Anderson?
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Time for Kubes to go. Three years and still no playoffs. Not even dream chance of playoffs. The man still thinks this is the NFL circa 1998 and his offensive game plan follows that.
The only unbeaten team in the NFL thinks your wrong and his game plan is pretty damn good since they have run the ball down everyones damn throat and played mistake free football. The difference is they have the talent to run the scheme and we still lack the skill up front and on defense.
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I think this is an accurate statement.

We still need a Center, a RG, a full time RB, a QB, OLB, DE, both DT's, and Safeties.

There are only so many rounds in the draft and we have been in cap hell the past three years so we have been unable to plug holes because of it.

This team is one good off season away from being a real good football team.

It hurts even more when I read the laundry list of needs in print! Its hard to fix a team that made so many personel mistakes in the past!
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The only thing this team is really lacking, not for a SB but to be a serious contender, is to load up on DBs. Every draft, I am screeming for a true FS and/or CB in the first round and it never happens. Keep spending all those high picks on DTs and this will continue forever. DRob will not always be here and/or healthy. It's a shame, whatever is keeping Bennett from reaching his full potential, but that's what we get for relying on only those 2....and a bunch of hapless squat. Wilson's OK too, but this team does not put the effort it should into having a secondary that can be trusted.
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It hurts even more when I read the laundry list of needs in print! Its hard to fix a team that made so many personel mistakes in the past!
There are few players from the previous regime left on the team. The current staff has its fingerprints all over the roster as constituted. Continuing to pass the blame back due to cap issues may help the fans feel better about the current staff, but may be glossing over more current issues.
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