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Old 11-05-2008   #101
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Or, try Okoye at DE. He is smallish and quick. He is struggling so much at DT its worth a try.
Hmmmm. I don't know. My plan was to use Okoye off the bench a lot to rest TJ, but I guess it's possible. I just looked at Okoye's height and weight. Not sure if he's quite tall enough, but he sure wouldn't have the size problem anymore. Wonder how his running speed is, because I know he's quick.
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What 14? He didnt give up any of the TD's.
His receiver scored one of their TDs on the slant so thats 7 right there. I could easily look at some of his plays and find another 7, for instance, first pass of the game he gets beaten badly by Berrian and gives up a 40 plus yard play. Great way to start off the game and if you don't think that was the main reason they opened with a TD drive you are crazy. He's bad, 07 Petey bad without all the PI calls (why call PI when they catch the ball though).

As for Okoye and Diles, they were a big part of helping to keep Peterson stuffed for 3 quarters of the game. Diles is a first year starter and Okoye is a 2nd year 21 year old DT. Are they playing lights out? No. But they already make more positive contributions to the defense than Reeves by a long shot imo.
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His receiver scored one of their TDs on the slant so thats 7 right there. I could easily look at some of his plays and find another 7, for instance, first pass of the game he gets beaten badly by Berrian and gives up a 40 plus yard play. Great way to start off the game and if you don't think that was the main reason they opened with a TD drive you are crazy. He's bad, 07 Petey bad without all the PI calls (why call PI when they catch the ball though).

As for Okoye and Diles, they were a big part of helping to keep Peterson stuffed for 3 quarters of the game. Diles is a first year starter and Okoye is a 2nd year 21 year old DT. Are they playing lights out? No. But they already make more positive contributions to the defense than Reeves by a long shot imo.
On the first play, he was supose to have help over the top and Wilson was a little late. That happends. How about the defense stopping them after all is said and done? There are 10 other guys out there, and when a big play is given up, you have to all buck up and make a stop. How about Diles giving up the 3rd and 9 that lead to a TD because he couldnt keep his feet under him? Thats one you forget in your equation. Im not calling Reeves the best player on our D, but to say he is the absolute worst and the only reason they scored points is freakin unbelievable. I just dont get Okoye's age as any sort of excuse. He has been a pro for a year and a half. Its time to maybe make a play here and there. He consistantly gives very little.
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Hmmmm. I don't know. My plan was to use Okoye off the bench a lot to rest TJ, but I guess it's possible. I just looked at Okoye's height and weight. Not sure if he's quite tall enough, but he sure wouldn't have the size problem anymore. Wonder how his running speed is, because I know he's quick.
I just think the middle is too muh for him at this point in his career. He isnt big enough, and gets run down easy. You could shift him into the DT spot on passing downs, with Cochran and Bowmen. Kinda makes Weaver a bench guy though...
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On the first play, he was supose to have help over the top and Wilson was a little late. That happends. How about the defense stopping them after all is said and done? There are 10 other guys out there, and when a big play is given up, you have to all buck up and make a stop. How about Diles giving up the 3rd and 9 that lead to a TD because he couldnt keep his feet under him? Thats one you forget in your equation. Im not calling Reeves the best player on our D, but to say he is the absolute worst and the only reason they scored points is freakin unbelievable. I just dont get Okoye's age as any sort of excuse. He has been a pro for a year and a half. Its time to maybe make a play here and there. He consistantly gives very little.
I didn't "forget that in my equation." Diles had a bad play, maybe I'd make more of it if he was constantly getting abused like Reeves. Its pretty obvious we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
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I didn't "forget that in my equation." Diles had a bad play, maybe I'd make more of it if he was constantly getting abused like Reeves. Its pretty obvious we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
I think its something that happends a little to much, his missed tackles and blown coverage, but agree to disagree. Ill give you Diles, but Okoye has been brutal.
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I just hate that Reeves keeps the defense on the field after 3rd down. He's not the only reason but the majority of it. It's almost as if the QBs look for him whenever it's 3rd down.
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Reeves might do better if the opposing WRs could be convinced to wear this on the back of their jerseys.


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I just hate that Reeves keeps the defense on the field after 3rd down. He's not the only reason but the majority of it. It's almost as if the QBs look for him whenever it's 3rd down.
I think its a consistant effort by our DB's and Safties to keep the opposing offense on the field. Whats the alternative to Reeves? Faggins? No thanks, Ive been there. I want Moulden to see some nickle action, but he isnt ready to start yet.
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He is better than Petey....how much?????? no clue
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I think its a consistant effort by our DB's and Safties to keep the opposing offense on the field. Whats the alternative to Reeves? Faggins? No thanks, Ive been there. I want Moulden to see some nickle action, but he isnt ready to start yet.
I don't know...some guy name Dunta Robinson! I know he may not be 100% yet, but his 80% is better than 100% of Reeves. Why Dunta and Fred aren't starting this weekend against the Ravens I don't understand. As far as Moulden, who knows what the guy can do? He's a special teams menace, I know that for sure. But it isn't fair to say the guy isn't ready to start yet when he hasn't been given a chance. Nobody knows what he can do yet. As far as Amobi moving to DE, he isn't big enough or fast enough to play a 4-3 DE. He isn't Freeney or Dumervil. It's DT or bust for Amobi.
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I don't know...some guy name Dunta Robinson! I know he may not be 100% yet, but his 80% is better than 100% of Reeves. Why Dunta and Fred aren't starting this weekend against the Ravens I don't understand. As far as Moulden, who knows what the guy can do? He's a special teams menace, I know that for sure. But it isn't fair to say the guy isn't ready to start yet when he hasn't been given a chance. Nobody knows what he can do yet. As far as Amobi moving to DE, he isn't big enough or fast enough to play a 4-3 DE. He isn't Freeney or Dumervil. It's DT or bust for Amobi.
Unfortunately, so far Amobi hasn't proven to be big enough or fast enough for an effective 4-3 DT either. In the 4-3, the DT is supposed to be very athletic AND very large, to be effective against the run and to be able to keep the O off the LBs.
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