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Old 11-03-2008   #121
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I'm still waiting for the thread that predicts a 6-2 (or better!) finish and then calls me a hater for not agreeing with such realistic expectations. We already have the "shoulda won" threads, so that is covered.
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I'm still waiting for the thread that predicts a 6-2 (or better!) finish and then calls me a hater for not agreeing with such realistic expectations. We already have the "shoulda won" threads, so that is covered.
Omg you're like not a fan at all! This is the type of posts that screams for negative rep!!!


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3 out of 4 wins and thier baaaaaaaack
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i knew they would find there way back.

im not talking about about you guys who post here all the time. im talking about the guys who only post after we lose and only come here to complain. if you would read the entire thread i think i tried to make that clear.
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i knew they would find there way back.

im not talking about about you guys who post here all the time. im talking about the guys who only post after we lose and only come here to complain. if you would read the entire thread i think i tried to make that clear.
I don't know what I am classified as, but I will say that a long time ago...I said that I would jump on the Schaub Wagon when he rattled off 6 or 7 performances like he had in the weeks prior to the Vikes game.

Dude crumbles under pressure. QBs are going to get hurried when they play top defenses. So we all need to stop acting like our oline is the culprit here.

Sage was weaving his way around the pocket just fine, and he didn't limp off the field yesterday. Forget the stupid argument about Sage's inability to protect the ball, because Schaub serves 'em up on a platter against good defenses, too. I remember last year's San Diego game (against a good defense) when Schaub threw picks on back-2-back drives....to the same guy. And, he didn't pay attention and he got blasted from the blindside on the pick return.

I mean, seriously. We have two backup QBs (something I stated over the summer) and no starting QB.

Couple it with a putrid defensive philosophy, and it is what it is: Mediocrity.

LOL. I guess it's human nature for guys to pit two things against each other and battle it out until one is dead. I'm sick of both of our QBs, and something else I mentioned over the summer: "Don't be surprised when we have a replay of last year's QB fiasco, and Texans fans ON THIS BOARD start calling for us to draft a QB or to gain a bonified starter, not a project."

I caught a lot of crap over that last prediction when I made it over the summer, but it's true: Our QBs are not starter quality. Solomon hit the nail on the head when he compared Sage to a spare mini-tire: Good for short-term emergency use, but not a long-term solution. Same goes for Schaub as far as I am concerned.

So, let the battle of inconsequential QB controversy resume...
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GP, This will be twice that I've had to concede that you may have a point.

The first time was when you maintained that we need talent upgrades on defense. I maintained that it was Richard Smith and not a lack of talent. Now I still won't agree that Richard Smith would do any better if we got said upgrades. But the upgrades are definitely needed.

This time I'm going to have to concede again that we could use an upgrade in the QB spot. We've got an upgrade when YKW left, but I'm going to have to agree that, unless the turnover issues are corrected, neither Matt nor Sage is the final solution to our QB woes.

I will say this. I think with a significant defensive upgrade - both talent-wise and coordinator-wise - either guy is a good enough game manager to get us into the playoffs. But defenses get tough at playoff time and these guys - so far - have wilted against strong defenses.
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I don't know what I am classified as, but I will say that a long time ago...I said that I would jump on the Schaub Wagon when he rattled off 6 or 7 performances like he had in the weeks prior to the Vikes game.

Dude crumbles under pressure. QBs are going to get hurried when they play top defenses. So we all need to stop acting like our oline is the culprit here.

Sage was weaving his way around the pocket just fine, and he didn't limp off the field yesterday. Forget the stupid argument about Sage's inability to protect the ball, because Schaub serves 'em up on a platter against good defenses, too. I remember last year's San Diego game (against a good defense) when Schaub threw picks on back-2-back drives....to the same guy. And, he didn't pay attention and he got blasted from the blindside on the pick return.

I mean, seriously. We have two backup QBs (something I stated over the summer) and no starting QB.

Couple it with a putrid defensive philosophy, and it is what it is: Mediocrity.

LOL. I guess it's human nature for guys to pit two things against each other and battle it out until one is dead. I'm sick of both of our QBs, and something else I mentioned over the summer: "Don't be surprised when we have a replay of last year's QB fiasco, and Texans fans ON THIS BOARD start calling for us to draft a QB or to gain a bonified starter, not a project."

I caught a lot of crap over that last prediction when I made it over the summer, but it's true: Our QBs are not starter quality. Solomon hit the nail on the head when he compared Sage to a spare mini-tire: Good for short-term emergency use, but not a long-term solution. Same goes for Schaub as far as I am concerned.

So, let the battle of inconsequential QB controversy resume...
Agreed, it just to me seems like Sage runs the team more efficiently in tough games. He just does. I'm not saying he is much better, but slightly. Before the season I thought Shaub was just slightly better than Sage. To me they are pretty close and not really starter material unless your alternatives are the Gus Ferrott, Tavaris Jackson, Rex Grossman types. Neither one is that bad, but neither one is that good either. If there was one QB out of the two that I think could end up rising out of nowhere, my money would be on Sage, but of course he would need more time to get the practice in and not feel like he will be pulled the minute he makes a mistake. The sad part in all of this was that Kubiak and his awful stubborness wouldn't even allow a QB competition. He just gave it to Shaub after a golf game.
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I can't say that I miss the patronizing posts from some of the sunshine gang.

How could we haters (i.e. realists) not have bought into the vision of the Texans as a team vying for the play-offs and threatening any elite team that crossed their paths?

How indeed.
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mot even the biggest glass of battle red koolaid can cover this crap we had to watch today.... I dont hate my team but that was baaaaaaaaaaaaad....

So you anti Carr fans...hmmmmm really we are a better team now? so the reason we lost was all his fault??????? Sage would be better?????? hmm maybe we had more problems.( i may have said that once or twice)
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mot even the biggest glass of battle red koolaid can cover this crap we had to watch today.... I dont hate my team but that was baaaaaaaaaaaaad....

So you anti Carr fans...hmmmmm really we are a better team now? so the reason we lost was all his fault??????? Sage would be better?????? hmm maybe we had more problems.( i may have said that once or twice)
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mot even the biggest glass of battle red koolaid can cover this crap we had to watch today.... I dont hate my team but that was baaaaaaaaaaaaad....

So you anti Carr fans...hmmmmm really we are a better team now? so the reason we lost was all his fault??????? Sage would be better?????? hmm maybe we had more problems.( i may have said that once or twice)


Think you forgot to put this on there, so I'll help.
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I can't say that I miss the patronizing posts from some of the sunshine gang.

How could we haters (i.e. realists) not have bought into the vision of the Texans as a team vying for the play-offs and threatening any elite team that crossed their paths?

How indeed.
i think you missed the point of the post. i was just frustrated with the people who only post after a loss. or when we have problems.(pretty much always anyway). maybe those guys were just out of town that week we looked good.
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i think you missed the point of the post. i was just frustrated with the people who only post after a loss. or when we have problems.(pretty much always anyway). maybe those guys were just out of town that week we looked good.
That's fine. It is just easier to bring up this thread and some of its contents then to find several other threads. Those that made fun of us who wouldn't buy into the Texans finishing off the season with something like a 7-2 run and then pointed to the Bengals games as evidence of the Texans rising to elite status.

I don't mind disagreement, but the constant partronizing, sarcastic, and belittling posts irritated me, especially since it was all based on apple pie and sunshine visions of the future that were somehow TRUE.

And now I'll drop it.
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