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Old 10-24-2008   #1
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Exclamation Breaking News!!!

I was watching NFL Live right now and they were talking to the woman who broke a story out of Denver about players taking "Water Pills" that could be a cover up for taking other drugs. Several Saints Will Smith and Deuce McAllister were involved and she just stated that a Texans player was too but would not name them. She said she had talked to a person in the Texans front office and they stated that they didnt know about this and would not go on record. Remember however that these pills are also taken to lose weight but are still against the leagues substance abuse policy and whomever it is can be suspended.
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It's probably one of our lineman.
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I was worried about this.
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She said mostly lineman. Hasn't ID'ed any other players and was told that one of the remaining players is a Texan.
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I think they said it was NOT a well-known member or the Texans.
"Not a big big name"
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I really hope it's Anthony Weaver and we could some how get some of his money back.
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I really hope it's Anthony Weaver and we could some how get some of his money back.
At first, I was thinking Faggins. That would explain why he had that spurt of decent playing the last couple of weeks. Too bad his very best, along with performace enhancing drug, wouldn't be good enough to stop CJ on a average day on toasting the **** out of him.
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Please be Weaver...
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Doesn't the media consider ALL of our players to not be big name players?

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I would guess it would be a slightly older player...

Can't see the young guys doing this..
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Unfortunately, there are many in the league who don't consider guys like DeMeco to be "big names", so I'm wary.

Here's my list, in order, of the guys I hope this is not:

1. Mario--utterly defenseless without him.
2. Kris Brown
3. DeMeco
4. AJ--we learned to live without him last year, but it wasn't easy
5. Winston
6. Daniels
7. D. Brown
8. Bulman
9. Dunta--he, at least, gives us hope
10. Slaton
11. Pitts
12. Schaub (would be higher but Sage is certainly a quality backup)
13. Diles
14. Leach (he's destroying defenders lately)
15. Walter
16. Okoye (just because he needs to develop)
17. Cochran
18. Briesel
19. Deljuan Robinson (seems like I see #66 in the backfield quite a bit)
20. Turk
21. Myers (if only because he knows the line calls pretty well)
22. Salaam
23. Rosenfels
24. Green (if only to keep Slaton fresh)
25. Jacoby (though we need to force a punt every once in awhile for him to be useful).
26. Bennett (last year's Bennett would be much higher on this list).

If Andre Davis wasn't hurt, he'd be here, too. If it's someone other than the above, we can shrug it off pretty easily. The remainder of our roster consists of promising youngsters who've yet to show anything (Okam, Adibi, Molden) and "just guys" who can basically be replaced by other "just guys".
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Unfortunately, there are many in the league who don't consider guys like DeMeco to be "big names", so I'm wary.

Here's my list, in order, of the guys I hope this is not:

1. Mario--utterly defenseless without him.
2. Kris Brown
3. DeMeco
4. AJ--we learned to live without him last year, but it wasn't easy
5. Winston
6. Daniels
7. D. Brown
8. Bulman
9. Dunta--he, at least, gives us hope
10. Slaton
11. Pitts
12. Schaub (would be higher but Sage is certainly a quality backup)
13. Diles
14. Leach (he's destroying defenders lately)
15. Walter
16. Okoye (just because he needs to develop)
17. Cochran
18. Briesel
19. Deljuan Robinson (seems like I see #66 in the backfield quite a bit)
20. Turk
21. Myers (if only because he knows the line calls pretty well)
22. Salaam
23. Rosenfels
24. Green (if only to keep Slaton fresh)
25. Jacoby (though we need to force a punt every once in awhile for him to be useful).
26. Bennett (last year's Bennett would be much higher on this list).

If Andre Davis wasn't hurt, he'd be here, too. If it's someone other than the above, we can shrug it off pretty easily. The remainder of our roster consists of promising youngsters who've yet to show anything (Okam, Adibi, Molden) and "just guys" who can basically be replaced by other "just guys".
my list would go
1. AJ
2. AJ
3. AJ
4. Mario
5. Schaub
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my list would go
1. AJ
2. AJ
3. AJ
4. Mario
5. Schaub
This team without Mario would be lucky to give up only 40 points a game.

We get our entire pass rush from ONE player.
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I really hope it's Anthony Weaver and we could some how get some of his money back.
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Please be Weaver...
Addition by subtraction! I like it!!
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Let's play detective and assume the Texans know who it is . What player needed to lose weight or get stronger ? What player is now being cycled out every few series ... kinda like they have to get the other guy some reps ?
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A Texan not specifically mentioned:

Fox 31 television in Denver, citing an unnamed source, reported Friday there are between six and 10 positive tests in the NFL for a weight-loss diuretic. The only names the station mentioned were the two Saints, who are in London for Sunday's game with the San Diego Chargers.

ESPN.com, citing two unnamed sources, reported the number is more than 10 and may exceed 15.

The NFL would not comment on the reports, but attorney David Cornwell told the Associated Press he has been hired to handle the appeals of a number of players who are facing possible suspensions.

Cornwell declined to identify any of his clients or say how many there were.

"These men are entitled to confidentiality and entitled to go through appeal process, so the (Fox 31) report ... is completely unfair," Cornwell said. "The cornerstone of any workplace testing program, especially one in professional sports with high-profile people, is confidentiality."

Saints spokesman Greg Bensel, who was with the team in London, said drug testing is a league matter and the team would have no immediate comment.

Phone messages left with defensive end Smith's agent, Joel Segal, and running back McAllster's agent, Jim Steiner, were not returned.

The Fox 31 report said three or four of the positive tests belonged to the Saints, and that McAllister and Smith tested positive for Bumetanide.

"Most of them tested positive for Bumetanide," Fox 31 quoted the person it identified as a league source. "The last few tested positive for another substance that works similarly."

Bumetanide, a "water pill," decreases the amount of water retained in the body by increasing urination. It causes the kidneys to get rid of unneeded water and salt from the body into the urine.

Diuretics also can be used as masking agents. When used in that capacity the diuretic dilutes the urine, which results in lower levels of the banned substance being excreted from the body. That can make it more difficult to detect banned substances.
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I am expecting the Texan player will be Okham but that is just a guess .
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I have come across a few reports that have inaccurately tried to equate the positive diuretic test to a positive steroid test for McAllister and Smith.

BTW, suspensions will not be handed out until after this week's games............we wouldn't want to look bad for the British folks, now would we?
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Let's play detective and assume the Texans know who it is . What player needed to lose weight or get stronger ? What player is now being cycled out every few series ... kinda like they have to get the other guy some reps ?
Say it ain't Slaton... say it ain't!
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If it is a Texan my bet is Bulman. He started out as a DT. Now hes been told he has to play DE. That has to be a hard transition.
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I am expecting the Texan player will be Okham but that is just a guess .
That's the first name that came to mind for me as well.


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