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Old 10-22-2008   #1
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my post count may be over a thousand, but i don't really post much nowadays because i don't feel it's that necessary most of the time, since a lot of posts here are not really what i wanna talk about. however, i lurk all the time, and i used to post here a lot when i was younger (i was 15 or so; i'm 20 now)... but yeah, i'm just gonna post some of my thoughts on this team.

i can't lie, i enjoy this offense more than any other offense we've had throughout the years. we have exciting players at every skill position for the first time in franchise history... and for once, we have some serious talent on the line. we're a bit undersized there, and inexperience is gonna show for a while, but i honestly see improvement week by week.

i realize we're playing horrible football teams during this winning streak, but i started seeing improvement in our third game in jacksonville... early struggles were to be expected considering our younger players, new coaches, and difficulty of competition. we couldn't have asked for a harder 4 games to start the season out with.

the new threat this 2008 team has, FINALLY, is at running back... just the presence of slaton in the backfield changes things from the get-go. defenses are now starting to respect the run a little more, and i think that's starting to really open the offense up and get the play action passes going. it's giving daniels all types of chances in the middle of the field, and easing the way for andre johnson and kevin walter on the edges.

and obviously, slaton himself is a great back, who has killer vision and burst we've never seen in houston... however, we CANNOT run this guy into the ground like we did domanick davis; he NEEDS a compliment to keep him fresh. he's extremely explosive, but his small size is going to lead to durability issues if he doesn't have another back to help carry the load. i've actually been quite impressed with green, but he's too expensive and he's just way too brittle to be relied on week to week.

we may end up winning 6 or 7 games this season, but i'm confident that we'll be alright in the long run... WITH A NEW DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR. richard smith, no matter how the defense performs the rest of the season, has worn out his welcome with me... i need to see a more aggressive scheme that can effectively rush the passer and not give up huge plays. granted, our secondary still needs a lot of work, but i think we've seen richard smith's ceiling.

my ideal draft would be as follows:

round 1: a talented, pass rushing DE. we need another pass rushing threat in the worst way possible, and weaver isn't cutting it.

round 2: a larger, north-south type RB. this is the compliment slaton needs, and it'll only make our offense more dynamic and unpredictable. i'm not gonna lie though, i wouldn't mind if we took a kenny phillips type FS here to push this pick to round 3.

round 3: a larger, more talented RG. brisiel is a decent player, but we need more of a push from the position, and he's not really doing that so much. i notice most of our good runs come on the left side.

i only specified the first three rounds because i expect players chosen in these rounds to make AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT. for rounds 4-6, i'm sure we'll address the secondary and both lines, and probably another quarterback in round 7... i'm joking, i hope.

in free agency, i'd LOVE haynesworth at DT, even if okam pans out. i also wouldn't mind more talent at WLB... and an improvement at LG/RG would be great to add some more competitiveness to the line. the secondary is pretty bad, but i think it's going to be markedly better with the return of dunta robinson; the personnel besides him could actually be worse. i think the winner of reeves/molden would do fine at nickelback with robinson and bennett on the edges.

i've been a little disappointed about the way this season started, obviously... but i'm liking our direction. the only move i'd be really disappointed about is keeping richard smith after this season. however, i feel this is his last hoorah. i really do. i think we could be a really dangerous team next season, especially if we attack our issues the way i would... but what do i know? i'm just a fan.

anyways, i'm done ranting. here's to a good (AND HEALTHY) rest of the season!
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Call me crazy, but I think an upgrade at center is more of a priority then RG. I wouldn't waste more draft picks then maybe two on offense, and they wouldn't be first day selections. This defense sucks, end of story. Fire Smith and draft the best corners and DE's you can.
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Call me crazy, but I think an upgrade at center is more of a priority then RG. I wouldn't waste more draft picks then maybe two on offense, and they wouldn't be first day selections. This defense sucks, end of story. Fire Smith and draft the best corners and DE's you can.
I agree that we need a center, with Meyers getting pushed around, more than RG, although, both are necessary for us to become a real powerhouse.

I think that SHOULD Dunta get back to form, we won't need to draft a CB. Instead, I think we should get a true free safety. Hopefully, Richard Smith will get the sack and we won't have any more of this left side of the field right side of the field nonsense, nor will we have any more of the interchangeable safety experiment.

As for DE, I may be alone in thinking we don't necessarily need to draft one that high this year. Maybe a pass-rush specialist in the second day.
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we deff need to draft a better player on the O-line

No DE we already got mario

we need to draft in the secondary thats obvious

i dont even think we really need to get another RB imo

are biggest move during the OS will be weather we trade Sage or not and what we could get for him
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If we dont draft the best available safety next year.......I will still be a die hard Texan fan with blind homerism.
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I wouldn't touch Albert Haynesworth with a ten foot pole once he gets a long term deal. That guy has big contract bust written all over him. He never did squat until he was in a contract year. Too much of a risk for the incredible amount of money he's sure to command.
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Call me crazy, but I think an upgrade at center is more of a priority then RG. I wouldn't waste more draft picks then maybe two on offense, and they wouldn't be first day selections. This defense sucks, end of story. Fire Smith and draft the best corners and DE's you can.
Ill add a big, fat space eater DT. Keep lineman off of our undersized MLB and keep him a little fresher throughout the year.
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My priorities would be
Round 1: Safety -- there seem to be very few first round safeties that don't end up working out. 1st round safeties are usually immediate game changers, and you can get them from anywhere in the first

Round 2: RB -- Green probably won't be here, and we need another "thunder" to go with our "lightning". You can get great running backs in the early to mid 2nd round

Round 3: G/C -- Whichever is available
There is usually great value for G/C in the 3rd and earlier

Round 4: DE/DT -- For some reason, 4th round is our speciality, so using this pick on a pass rushing end or space filling DT seems like a good move

Rounds 5-7: BPA
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All of the team needs y'all are bringing up are legitimate. However, I believe the team's biggest weakness is OLB. I think Demeco is out of position at MLB and should be moved to OLB and then we draft the best MLB or OLB available with #1 or #2 at the latest.
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The announcers said last Sunday that Kubiak informed them that he was quite happy with the state of the linebacking corp, and that the rotations on the DL and secondary were his biggest concerns.

I think Ryans and Diles have been working out nicely, and Greenwood has been solid if unspectacular with a developing Abidi ready to take over as soon as he can.
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I don't think we need a "big" back...

I think that with this scheme a talented medium sized RB to back up Slaton would be o.k...
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I don't think we need a "big" back...

I think that with this scheme a talented medium sized RB to back up Slaton would be o.k...
slaton can only take so many carries... he's not gonna survive larry johnson-type carries in a season. a larger, young back would definitely add a change of pace and a much needed breather for slaton. come on, who else do we have?... ahman green, who's probably playing his last season for us? chris taylor, who lands on the IR every season? i agree that slaton is gonna be the man in houston for a long time, but he NEEDS a 1a.
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My priorities would be
Round 1: Safety -- there seem to be very few first round safeties that don't end up working out. 1st round safeties are usually immediate game changers, and you can get them from anywhere in the first

Round 2: RB -- Green probably won't be here, and we need another "thunder" to go with our "lightning". You can get great running backs in the early to mid 2nd round

Round 3: G/C -- Whichever is available
There is usually great value for G/C in the 3rd and earlier

Round 4: DE/DT -- For some reason, 4th round is our speciality, so using this pick on a pass rushing end or space filling DT seems like a good move

Rounds 5-7: BPA
i like your take also... a top-flight free safety would be great for our secondary. will demps's style makes him a better strong safety, and i think he'll suffice for the time being.
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I wouldn't touch Albert Haynesworth with a ten foot pole once he gets a long term deal. That guy has big contract bust written all over him. He never did squat until he was in a contract year. Too much of a risk for the incredible amount of money he's sure to command.
are you kidding me? he's been one of the best, if not THE best, defensive tackles in the league for a couple of years now. he would make this defense CONSIDERABLY better, and that's not a stretch.
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I don't think we need a "big" back...

I think that with this scheme a talented medium sized RB to back up Slaton would be o.k...
I don't necessarily think we need a big back, but it would be nice to have a back that moved the pile a little when he hits it. You know, since we have the back running into the pile situation a lot.

Also worth noting - and I don't know how many of you still have games recorded from '04 - Dom Davis had a knack for breaking tackles. He didn't have the burst that Slaton has, nor the top end speed, obviously, but he was shifty, with good vision, and was able to get slippery and break arm tackles and such. That's something that I haven't seen with Slaton.

What I'd like to see is a back that can pound it, then put Slaton in for the home run threat. I also have long-term concerns about Slaton's durability, but that remains to be seen. All I know for sure is that when Slaton draws contact, he usually goes backward.
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Call me crazy, but I think an upgrade at center is more of a priority then RG. I wouldn't waste more draft picks then maybe two on offense, and they wouldn't be first day selections. This defense sucks, end of story. Fire Smith and draft the best corners and DE's you can.
i agree, we also need more of a push from the center position. however, i'll give myers a little time to get acclimated... he is undersized, but i think technique is the name of his game. i'm sure alex gibbs had say in bringing him to houston, so i'll wait a bit...
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I don't necessarily think we need a big back, but it would be nice to have a back that moved the pile a little when he hits it. You know, since we have the back running into the pile situation a lot.

Also worth noting - and I don't know how many of you still have games recorded from '04 - Dom Davis had a knack for breaking tackles. He didn't have the burst that Slaton has, nor the top end speed, obviously, but he was shifty, with good vision, and was able to get slippery and break arm tackles and such. That's something that I haven't seen with Slaton.

What I'd like to see is a back that can pound it, then put Slaton in for the home run threat. I also have long-term concerns about Slaton's durability, but that remains to be seen. All I know for sure is that when Slaton draws contact, he usually goes backward.
i've seen slaton break tackles, definitely... to me, he pretty much is domanick davis, only with that added explosive element.

in regards to my "big back theory", i'm thinking of a back in the mold of james davis, RB out of clemson. he's big enough to push the pile, and this would help A LOT in goal line situations. slaton hasn't had too much difficulty as of yet in that department, but it just makes sense to have a larger, more punishing back in those types of situations. and also, as i stated previously, it would give defensive coordinators nightmares having to gameplan for slaton and somebody else who brings that power element to the table.
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Slaton has broken plenty tackles...He's even run a few folks over...

I think he's shown that he's more than capable of being an everydown back...
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As for DE, I may be alone in thinking we don't necessarily need to draft one that high this year. Maybe a pass-rush specialist in the second day.
i agree, we could potentially find a pass rushing specialist in day two... but i think this is most pressing need, by far... which is why i wouldn't mind at all if it was addressed with a mid to late first round pick (if we can put ourselves in that position).
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The announcers said last Sunday that Kubiak informed them that he was quite happy with the state of the linebacking corp, and that the rotations on the DL and secondary were his biggest concerns.

I think Ryans and Diles have been working out nicely, and Greenwood has been solid if unspectacular with a developing Abidi ready to take over as soon as he can.
I do remember saying quite a few times Sunday "when did Diles get good?" Here's to hoping he keeps it up.
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