How bout some love for Richard Smith? - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

buddyboy · 10-13-2008

Hey, this guy's been on the hotseat for a long time now, and probably for good reason.

But the game versus Miami I noticed some good things: constant pressure, blitzes, stopping the run (mostly).

How bout we suck it up and give him even a little credit for this game?

**HOU-TEX** · 10-13-2008

Nah, he's still on the hotseat.

DiehardChris · 10-13-2008

Uh, no. Sorry.

**Texan_Bill** · 10-13-2008

I'll pass... Because at the end of the day, 'the sun shines on a dog's a$$ some days'.

DBCooper · 10-13-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddyboy

Hey, this guy's been on the hotseat for a long time now, and probably for good reason.

But the game versus Miami I noticed some good things: constant pressure, blitzes, stopping the run (mostly).

How bout we suck it up and give him even a little credit for this game?

Nice try Dick, but you still need to be fired!

barrett · 10-13-2008

i will give him as little credit as i can and say that yes, there were signs of improvement. there have been steady signs of improvement over the last three weeks. but going from bad to not as bad is not the same as good. i move forward with extremely cautious optimism.

**utahmark** · 10-13-2008

didnt they score 28 points.

Scooter · 10-13-2008

nope.

J-Russ · 10-13-2008

Why is he still our DC? Why God, why?

Mr teX · 10-13-2008

Uh.. only insofar as that he may have had something to do with the D-line shuffle... but then again that may have been kubes. Other than that it's more of our guys are finally making plays. Imagine the array of emotions i went thru when i saw Morlon "the invisible man" Greenwood make not 1 but 2 big plays yesterday.

.....

...then...

dalemurphy · 10-13-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddyboy

Hey, this guy's been on the hotseat for a long time now, and probably for good reason.

But the game versus Miami I noticed some good things: constant pressure, blitzes, stopping the run (mostly).

How bout we suck it up and give him even a little credit for this game?

Well, you could read the thread I started before the Miami game titled: "Top 10 Defense"...

I saw major defensive improvement in the Indy game, starting with our play up the middle at LB and safety. The Miami game generally reassured me of my brilliance.

**eriadoc** · 10-13-2008

I'll admit, Richard Smith's defense giving up only four touchdowns deserves some love.

*oknotreally*

Errant Hothy · 10-13-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddyboy

Hey, this guy's been on the hotseat for a long time now, and probably for good reason.

But the game versus Miami I noticed some good things: constant pressure, blitzes, stopping the run (mostly).

How bout we suck it up and give him even a little credit for this game?

Getting burned by an 80 yard screen to Patrick Cobbs!

10-13-2008

Smith isn't as terrible as a lot of you make him out to be....

Our defense playing badly at times is a combination of a lot of things...

Hooston Texan · 10-13-2008

This was a classic "if you throw out" effort by the D. If you throw out the two big plays and assume that Eugene Wilson doesn't fumble the late pick, this was an outstanding effort by the D. Total yards allowed on 2 plays plus the "reprieve" drive: 206. Yards allowed in the Dolphins' other 10 possessions: 166. I believe half of their first downs came on those 3 series/plays. Sounds good, right?

But the problem is that you cannot "throw out" the bad plays. Yes, the Wildcat pass was unconventional, but the D should have been well aware that Miami was going to throw out more wrinkles (they said as much pregame). And that screen pass breakdown was horrific.

Against really good teams, two big plays can often beat you.

Frankly, Miami did us a favor by playing this really close to the vest. I counted no fewer than 4 fourth-and-one situations that the Dolphins chose to punt on.

That said, I'll agree that the defense played much better today than they did in games 1-3. But that's a pretty low bar to get over.

**Texans34Life** · 10-13-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddyboy

Hey, this guy's been on the hotseat for a long time now, and probably for good reason.

But the game versus Miami I noticed some good things: constant pressure, blitzes, stopping the run (mostly).

How bout we suck it up and give him even a little credit for this game?

Are you kidding me? I hope they can him and promote Ray Rhodes. Same type of defense every game. The offense had to bail out the defense to win yesterday.

WesmanTexanfan · 10-13-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddyboy

Hey, this guy's been on the hotseat for a long time now, and probably for good reason.

But the game versus Miami I noticed some good things: constant pressure, blitzes, stopping the run (mostly).

How bout we suck it up and give him even a little credit for this game?

to quote my man All Borlan "I dont think so Tim"...

10-13-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texans34Life

The offense had to bail out the defense to win yesterday.

Because the offense was brilliant and masteful in their execution all game long....

Nevermind the three turnovers...

Corrosion · 10-13-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddyboy

Hey, this guy's been on the hotseat for a long time now, and probably for good reason.

But the game versus Miami I noticed some good things: constant pressure, blitzes, stopping the run (mostly).

How bout we suck it up and give him even a little credit for this game?

How bout no , First time all year they held someone under 30 and it was a crappy Fish offense that has to rely on gimicks .... AND they gave up two huge plays to a no name reciever , guy had 50ish NFL recieving yards coming into the game and got almost three times that on two plays.

**HOU-TEX** · 10-13-2008

The defense can't stop anybody when it counts. We are/or where the worst team in the NFL in redzone defense. Is that all on the players? No, I don't think so.

It has been said by other players that our defense is vanilla and predictable. When actual players of the NFL say that, I'd have to believe them over fans of the team.

We don't have the best talent, but I think we have enough to rank higher than the likes of the Colts, Saints, Cards, Browns, etc.

10-13-2008	#1
buddyboy All Pro Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 762 Rep Power: 4816	How bout some love for Richard Smith? Hey, this guy's been on the hotseat for a long time now, and probably for good reason. But the game versus Miami I noticed some good things: constant pressure, blitzes, stopping the run (mostly). How bout we suck it up and give him even a little credit for this game?

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Mr teX Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Everyone Wants The Throne Posts: 6,281 Rep Power: 11970	Re: How bout some love for Richard Smith? Uh.. only insofar as that he may have had something to do with the D-line shuffle... but then again that may have been kubes. Other than that it's more of our guys are finally making plays. Imagine the array of emotions i went thru when i saw Morlon "the invisible man" Greenwood make not 1 but 2 big plays yesterday. ........then...

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Hooston Texan All Pro Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 652 Rep Power: 1282	Re: How bout some love for Richard Smith? This was a classic "if you throw out" effort by the D. If you throw out the two big plays and assume that Eugene Wilson doesn't fumble the late pick, this was an outstanding effort by the D. Total yards allowed on 2 plays plus the "reprieve" drive: 206. Yards allowed in the Dolphins' other 10 possessions: 166. I believe half of their first downs came on those 3 series/plays. Sounds good, right? But the problem is that you cannot "throw out" the bad plays. Yes, the Wildcat pass was unconventional, but the D should have been well aware that Miami was going to throw out more wrinkles (they said as much pregame). And that screen pass breakdown was horrific. Against really good teams, two big plays can often beat you. Frankly, Miami did us a favor by playing this really close to the vest. I counted no fewer than 4 fourth-and-one situations that the Dolphins chose to punt on. That said, I'll agree that the defense played much better today than they did in games 1-3. But that's a pretty low bar to get over.

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