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**Texans_Chick** · 10-08-2008

Did this write up for the TC blog, and though y'all would be interested in it:

Houston Texans stats in Football Outsiders; Time to vote for the Slaton-Williams ticket

I hope that the stats look worse because of the road games. If you look at JAX/Indy's stats, they aren't that great either-injuries. Texans picked the wrong year to be sucking.

Tailgate · 10-08-2008

Sweet... more ammo to sell myself on the apparent "direction" of this team! Good 4th down stat btw. I have been to the point for a couple of weeks now where I am yelling and praying for the opposing team to punt the ball when those close situations arise. Because you just know deep down inside its a for sure thing....and it only snowballs as more teams see others doing it so successfully against us.

Ole Miss Texan · 10-08-2008

Interesting (awful) stats.

I know they have work to do in still building this team, but I think they are so close. I have a feeling once a puzzle piece or two is put down... this team will do a complete 180. Don't know when it will be, hopefully this offseason when we add a couple more starters and phenominal players... but it'll come. It'll be one of those 3-13 seasons that turns into a 10-6 season w/ a playoff spot.

It's like a rifle. Right now we've got most of the pieces and the gun can hurt. It doesn't fire on all cylinders so to speak, but you can beat people over the head with it. Win the occasional fight here and there. Once we get another part or two- we'll be able to fire it and really 'hurt' some people. Right now we just can't quite shoot.

Texanfan4ever · 10-08-2008

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Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

Interesting (awful) stats.

I know they have work to do in still building this team, but I think they are so close. I have a feeling once a puzzle piece or two is put down... this team will do a complete 180. Don't know when it will be, hopefully this offseason when we add a couple more starters and phenominal players... but it'll come. It'll be one of those 3-13 seasons that turns into a 10-6 season w/ a playoff spot.

It's like a rifle. Right now we've got most of the pieces and the gun can hurt. It doesn't fire on all cylinders so to speak, but you can beat people over the head with it. Win the occasional fight here and there. Once we get another part or two- we'll be able to fire it and really 'hurt' some people. Right now we just can't quite shoot.

If Sage hadn't imploded at the end of the game, we would all be singing a different song. It wasn't the whole team that created the loss Sunday. We stilled played great football against the Colts. But I think yiou are right. We probqably need a few more pieces, but I would say the ones we have are working pretty good.

Ole Miss Texan · 10-09-2008

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Originally Posted by Texanfan4ever

If Sage hadn't imploded at the end of the game, we would all be singing a different song. It wasn't the whole team that created the loss Sunday. We stilled played great football against the Colts. But I think yiou are right. We probqably need a few more pieces, but I would say the ones we have are working pretty good.

Very true. I think we're such an improved team and are a better team than our record, easily. So once we get another piece here or there, and maybe a light bulb comes on... the results are going to look greatly improved. Like an 'overnight' all of a sudden we're better kind of feeling.

Texanfan4ever · 10-09-2008

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Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

Very true. I think we're such an improved team and are a better team than our record, easily. So once we get another piece here or there, and maybe a light bulb comes on... the results are going to look greatly improved. Like an 'overnight' all of a sudden we're better kind of feeling.

Maybe it will start Sunday??????????Please let it start, Please let it start, please let it start.........

**Malloy** · 10-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

It's like a rifle. Right now we've got most of the pieces and the gun can hurt. It doesn't fire on all cylinders so to speak, but you can beat people over the head with it. Win the occasional fight here and there. Once we get another part or two- we'll be able to fire it and really 'hurt' some people. Right now we just can't quite shoot.

SO really its more like a car ?

**Tedc** · 10-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Malloy

SO really its more like a Carr ?

Fixed it for ya.

**Malloy** · 10-10-2008

That too

**Vinny** · 10-10-2008

we give up lots of critical short yardage plays because we have no size in the middle of the field. That doesn't explain why we give up so many critical short yardage passes though....just sayin'.

**ArlingtonTexan** · 10-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Vinny

we give up lots of critical short yardage plays because we have no size in the middle of the field. That doesn't explain why we give up so many critical short yardage passes though....just sayin'.

Maybe they are related as I think the short passing game is influenced more by inside push than coverage or a good speed rush.

**Vinny** · 10-10-2008

good point and we have stayed away from guys like Shawn Rogers, John Henderson, Kris Jenkins and Albert Hainsworth since we want 'slashers'...but slashers don't destroy interior linemen and push them back 5 yards due to sheer force.

**utahmark** · 10-10-2008

i didnt read to see how these guys come up with thier stats but if you look at total yardage. we are 13 on offense and 18 on defense. that looks a lot better. especially considering or schedule. ill just stick with those numbers, makes me feel better.

**ArlingtonTexan** · 10-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Vinny

good point and we have stayed away from guys like Shawn Rogers, John Henderson, Kris Jenkins and Albert Hainsworth since we want 'slashers'...but slashers don't destroy interior linemen and push them back 5 yards due to sheer force.

You reminded of another issue is not having any real tall guys who can bat some balls on occassion when a QB drops short. Often with those taller DTs just regualrly getting thier hands up may screw up passing lanes.

Second Honeymoon · 10-10-2008

its kinda funny how most of the fans who think Kubiak and the Texans will 'turn it around' are the same fans who made excuse after excuse for Carr saying that he would 'turn it around'. I hope they are more accurate on this topic, than they were with DC. maybe some of the sheeple can mix in some objectivity now and then.

**utahmark** · 10-10-2008

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Originally Posted by Second Honeymoon

its kinda funny how most of the fans who think Kubiak and the Texans will 'turn it around' are the same fans who made excuse after excuse for Carr saying that he would 'turn it around'. I hope they are more accurate on this topic, than they were with DC. maybe some of the sheeple can mix in some objectivity now and then.

you can count me in that group. i did want mario over reggie, so im not always wrong.

10-08-2008	#1
Texans_Chick Utopian Dreamer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,962 Rep Power: 23137	Texans and the numbers Did this write up for the TC blog, and though y'all would be interested in it: Houston Texans stats in Football Outsiders; Time to vote for the Slaton-Williams ticket I hope that the stats look worse because of the road games. If you look at JAX/Indy's stats, they aren't that great either-injuries. Texans picked the wrong year to be sucking. __________________ More on the Texans? Please check TexansChick Hou Chronicle Blog & AOL Sports-Texans FanHouse & Twitter @StephStradley

10-08-2008	#2
Tailgate Fall of Hame Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, TX - Born and raised Age: 35 Posts: 2,680 Rep Power: 8909	Re: Texans and the numbers Sweet... more ammo to sell myself on the apparent "direction" of this team! Good 4th down stat btw. I have been to the point for a couple of weeks now where I am yelling and praying for the opposing team to punt the ball when those close situations arise. Because you just know deep down inside its a for sure thing....and it only snowballs as more teams see others doing it so successfully against us.

10-08-2008	#3
Ole Miss Texan Hall of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,632 Rep Power: 10804	Re: Texans and the numbers Interesting (awful) stats. I know they have work to do in still building this team, but I think they are so close. I have a feeling once a puzzle piece or two is put down... this team will do a complete 180. Don't know when it will be, hopefully this offseason when we add a couple more starters and phenominal players... but it'll come. It'll be one of those 3-13 seasons that turns into a 10-6 season w/ a playoff spot. It's like a rifle. Right now we've got most of the pieces and the gun can hurt. It doesn't fire on all cylinders so to speak, but you can beat people over the head with it. Win the occasional fight here and there. Once we get another part or two- we'll be able to fire it and really 'hurt' some people. Right now we just can't quite shoot.

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Malloy Site Contributor Join Date: May 2005 Location: CPH Age: 38 Posts: 5,334 Rep Power: 4056	Re: Texans and the numbers That too __________________ Insanity is my only means of relaxation

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Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	Re: Texans and the numbers we give up lots of critical short yardage plays because we have no size in the middle of the field. That doesn't explain why we give up so many critical short yardage passes though....just sayin'. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

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Vinny shiny happy fan Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 20,714 Rep Power: 55750	Re: Texans and the numbers good point and we have stayed away from guys like Shawn Rogers, John Henderson, Kris Jenkins and Albert Hainsworth since we want 'slashers'...but slashers don't destroy interior linemen and push them back 5 yards due to sheer force. __________________ http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

10-10-2008	#13
utahmark markbeth Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: utah Age: 43 Posts: 1,914 Rep Power: 5935	Re: Texans and the numbers i didnt read to see how these guys come up with thier stats but if you look at total yardage. we are 13 on offense and 18 on defense. that looks a lot better. especially considering or schedule. ill just stick with those numbers, makes me feel better.

10-10-2008	#15
Second Honeymoon Hall of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 5,330 Rep Power: 2730	Re: Texans and the numbers its kinda funny how most of the fans who think Kubiak and the Texans will 'turn it around' are the same fans who made excuse after excuse for Carr saying that he would 'turn it around'. I hope they are more accurate on this topic, than they were with DC. maybe some of the sheeple can mix in some objectivity now and then. __________________ @DougVanHorne on Twitter (CardinalDoug)

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