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Old 10-05-2008   #21
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Why aren't you saying fire Matt Schaub then? Did you already forget about those terrible games he played against Pittsburgh and Tennessee?
You can look at those games and say that either:

A) the whole team played badly

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B) the defense played horribly

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C) the offense looked like crap


At Pitt, Jax, or Tenn can you say "Wow, great team effort but (insert single player name here) really cost us the game."
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Old 10-05-2008   #22
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At Pitt, Jax, or Tenn can you say "Wow, great team effort but (insert single player name here) really cost us the game."
Yes I can insert Schaub's name, especially in the Tennessee game.
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He won't ever admit it and no one from the organization will say it but Sage put himself above the team when he went for it on the first fumble. Instead of playing it a bit safer and more conservative and being content with a win he tried to make a statement about getting more playing time and it cost us the game and probably a ton of trade value for him in the off-season. Maybe if he was the starter on some other team he wouldn't feel the need to make these plays out of nothing but that was terrible.
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You'll be changing your username soon since Sage will be out of the league in the near future.
Actually, I doubt it. Sage will be a free agent this off season. Expect Minnesota and KC to make a run at him. The only thing Minnesota is missing is a QB. You may be wishing you had Sage back by the end of next season.
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Yes I can insert Schaub's name, especially in the Tennessee game.
OMG, another Hulk75.
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I'm not saying that what happened today was by any means good. Nor am I saying that Sage is the next Tom Brady. All I'm saying is that he's better than Schaub.
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He won't ever admit it and no one from the organization will say it but Sage put himself above the team when he went for it on the first fumble. Instead of playing it a bit safer and more conservative and being content with a win he tried to make a statement about getting more playing time and it cost us the game and probably a ton of trade value for him in the off-season. Maybe if he was the starter on some other team he wouldn't feel the need to make these plays out of nothing but that was terrible.
While I am a Sage supporter, I'd agree whole heartedly with this statement. Sage went to make a play when a play wasn't required. I'd bet his motivation was more selfish then anyone would admit. If he makes the play, there's a serious QB controversy in Houston now and his free agency value spikes sharply.

After saying that and putting a negative spin on it, I'd have to admit, I would have done the same thing. Go hard or go home.
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NO! He is the single most selfish person on this team. Terrell Owens wouldn't have done that ****. Plain and simple, he want's the starting job, and threw away this game trying to get it. To hell with this guy. I could care less if we cut him tomorrow morning. If Kubiak and McNair truly don't like players with character issues, they will cut this waste tomorrow.
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Matt - Steelers, Titans, Jaugars
Sage - Colts


There is a little difference in the defenses they played against.

Oh, and Matt's were all on the road.
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I'm not saying that what happened today was by any means good. Nor am I saying that Sage is the next Tom Brady. All I'm saying is that he's better than Schaub.
Dude thats great that you think Sage is better but news flash no one cares who starts people only care these days about who wins. Sage starts fine and if Schaub starts also fine I dont give a ******* I want a freaking win not lame a** QB that pulls a Drew Tate
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Yes I can insert Schaub's name, especially in the Tennessee game.
Thing is...EVERYONE played great today. Everyone played about the best they could today...

The Pitt game...the whole team played bad except Mario.

Tenn game...whole team played bad except Slaton

Jags game....offense was good defense was bad

The whole team played great today and one guy just...idk, he says he was trying to get the first down and seal the win or something...yet the win was sealed when we got the onside kick.
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You may be wishing you had Sage back by the end of next season.
I think I'd rather have my hemorrhoids flair up again than see Sage take us to another heartbreaking loss. I'm completely confused as to why anyone supporting Rosenfails would even attempt to think about posting here after his putrid performance in the 4th quarter. I just don't get it.
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And I still say he's a better QB the Matt.

Matt threw pick in the first two games and then finally had a good game against the Jags.

Sage fumbled the ball trying to make a play, then threw a pick out of desparation.

Sage's problems can be fixed, I don't know that Matts can.

Ok, go ahead crucify me.
I'm not going to crucify you. I will say this. You are blind if you compare Matts games to Sages.


First of all. Top to bottom. The entire team lost the games Matt played in. You can't place the blame on just one person unit or coach. Sage lost this game. Plain and simple. Don't give me that "He put us in a position to win" bs either. He had one job. One priority. And on two consecutive plays that you put the ball in his hands he was careless with it. IF you are going to pull that boneheaded move and jump, you better get both damn hands on the ball..

Next. Most of Schaub's mistakes came trying to rescue his team from some sort of disasterous situation. Being down 2 scores to the steelers, and your defense hasn't stopped them ALL DAY. Sages mistakes (well 2 of the 4, and the most costly two mistakes) came when he was well ahead. In my opinion, that leap, he was putting himself first... trying to "win the game" and look good doing it. There was NO reason to do that. Schaub made mistakes, granted, when the game was out of hand. He didn't necisarliy have hand in getting it there either. Sage was given a game you'd love to have. RBs running all over the place. Defense stopping people. Offense clicking, OL blocking, he had time to throw. He had indy back on their heels. He didn't pull it off.

Schaub has not played "great", but he would be 1-2 if not for the defense and special teams collapsing on him in Jacksonville. Sage is 0-1 after the rest of the team playing a perfect game. Sage was on his feet all day. His receivers were catching the ball.

Even his last pass. Throw that ball away. You have 42 seconds and 2 more downs to go half the field, with two time outs. Don't put a duck up there.




All I know, is this team needs to learn to win yesterday. We have the talent on offense to get the job done.


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1st fumble was his fault majorly.

2nd fumble was just good D on the other team.

The INT was his fault.

Like I said, I totally blame Sage for this loss, but I still think he's better than Schaub.

Plus you're all judging 3 games of Schaub's where he played poorly in 2. We're taking a smaller sampling of Sage and just making a judgment right there.
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NO! He is the single most selfish person on this team. Terrell Owens wouldn't have done that ****. Plain and simple, he want's the starting job, and threw away this game trying to get it. To hell with this guy. I could care less if we cut him tomorrow morning. If Kubiak and McNair truly don't like players with character issues, they will cut this waste tomorrow.
Selfish? What QB would throw his body into defenders for a few extra yards? I'm not saying he's better than Schaub, but he put forth a valiant effort and played to win. Unfortunately, we should've run-run-run-punt in those last 4 minutes. He was trying to hard to make a play in the 4th quarter and should've played it safe. I didn't expect us to win the game in the first place, even with that lead. Like I said, no lead is safe with ol' Manning at QB.
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And I still say he's a better QB the Matt.

Matt threw pick in the first two games and then finally had a good game against the Jags.

Sage fumbled the ball trying to make a play, then threw a pick out of desparation.

Sage's problems can be fixed, I don't know that Matts can.

Ok, go ahead crucify me.

So the same type dumb turnovers he made last year and the same problems we had with Schuab before. How is he better?They both have proven nothing but they aren't true starters so far.
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If Sage slides, the clock counts down, and the Texans win, you'd all be on Sage's nuts. Are you all really telling me that not once during this game before the debacle that you were thinking Sage should be the starter?
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There are very good reasons why a team like the Miami Dolphins with all their great post-Marino QB play had no interest in keeping Sage around. He should have been traded for whatever was offered back when he had value. I said it then and it's ten times as true today.
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1st fumble was his fault majorly.

2nd fumble was just good D on the other team.

The INT was his fault.

Like I said, I totally blame Sage for this loss, but I still think he's better than Schaub.

Plus you're all judging 3 games of Schaub's where he played poorly in 2. We're taking a smaller sampling of Sage and just making a judgment right there.
David Carr himself wouldn't have attempted "The Dive" and I know Schaub wouldn't have either. Rosenfels took fail to a whole new level. After screwing his own team trying some idiotic dive he gets a chance to get us out of our endzone and can't feel the pressure which results in his stupid ass giving up the ball in our territory. F Sage Rosenfails.
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