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Old 09-28-2008   #1
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Hochuli makes another questionable call
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Buzz Up PrintCHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP)—Referee Ed Hochuli was at the center of another questionable call Sunday, flagging Julius Peppers for a roughing-the-passer penalty that wiped out Carolina’s interception return for a touchdown in the first quarter against Atlanta.

After Matt Ryan’s pass was intercepted by Richard Marshall, Hochuli threw a flag and announced Peppers made a helmet-to-helmet hit on Ryan. It erased the touchdown and gave the Falcons a first down on a drive that ended with a punt.

Replays showed Peppers made contact as Ryan released the ball, and appeared to hit him first with his shoulder.

“Ed came over and explained to me, he said that I hit him with my helmet,” Peppers said. “He said I hit him with my helmet in his head and that’s what he called. It wasn’t really roughing, late hit. It was just my helmet hit his helmet, so it was just one of those calls that, you know, player safety is what that was about.

“I’m not trying to hit him with my helmet. I’m not trying to hurt him, but you know, it’s football so I’m going for the tackle so helmets are going to get hit sometimes.”

Fans booed loudly when the play was shown on the video boards at Bank of America Stadium, and Carolina coach John Fox said after the game that was the only footage he’d seen of the play.

“I can’t comment, No. 1. But No. 2, I didn’t really see it,” Fox said. “I saw the replay, and I wasn’t real fond of it then.”

Two weeks ago, Hochuli’s missed call helped Denver’s comeback 39-38 win over San Diego.

Denver quarterback Jay Cutler dropped back to pass, the ball slipped from his hand and a San Diego player recovered. But Hochuli, who has refereed two Super Bowls, ruled it an incomplete pass. He later admitted it was the wrong call.

Denver retained possession, scored a touchdown and then won with a successful 2-point conversion.
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Old 09-28-2008   #2
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Default Re: the hulk in trouble again

sounds like a call that is always going to be called
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Old 09-28-2008   #3
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Default Re: the hulk in trouble again

His nickname is GUNS!
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Default Re: the hulk in trouble again

Like any other referee in the league wouldn't have flagged that.

When the league tells the referees that the most important thing is to protect the QB, then calls like this are gonna happen.

Blame the rules, not the ref.
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After the Broncos game, every questionable call he makes will be heavily scrutinized. If I were him I would probably call it quits after this season.
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After the Broncos game, every questionable call he makes will be heavily scrutinized. If I were him I would probably call it quits after this season.
No way. He's too good of a ref (in my opinion) to hang it up. He did make a really really bad call against SD, but I think he's a big enough man to live that down and not swallow his whistle because he's afraid to make the wrong call. That's not the GUNS way.
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No way. He's too good of a ref (in my opinion) to hang it up. He did make a really really bad call against SD, but I think he's a big enough man to live that down and not swallow his whistle because he's afraid to make the wrong call. That's not the GUNS way.
Every man has his breaking point, so we will see. Needless to say, though... one more big mistake like that and the league may hand him his resignation.
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Default Fire Ed Hochuli!

With all the other "fire this guy" threads going on, I thought this was appropriate. I can't tell you how many times I thought he made bad calls against the Texans and this will make two weeks in a row he's made obviously awful calls to other teams.

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Default Re: Fire Ed Hochuli!

Its not really a fire ***** thread, till it has its own soap
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Default Re: Fire Ed Hochuli!

We already have a thread on this.

Any referee in the league would have made the same call he did. That's what happens when the league tries to create a forcefield around QBs.
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Default Re: Fire Ed Hochuli!

ed's one of, if not the best ref in the league. any ref worth his salt would've made the same call because the league has made what he saw a point of emphasis. i like ref's as little as everyone else but "guns" is the most consistant and usually accurate guys the NFL has. i feel bad for the guy, watching 5 minutes of any game this weekend shows worse calls but he's had the poor luck of the controversial calls deciding games.
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ed's one of, if not the best ref in the league. any ref worth his salt would've made the same call because the league has made what he saw a point of emphasis. i like ref's as little as everyone else but "guns" is the most consistant and usually accurate guys the NFL has. i feel bad for the guy, watching 5 minutes of any game this weekend shows worse calls but he's had the poor luck of the controversial calls deciding games.
speaking of calls ... or no calls .... I dont recall the JaQ's being called for a single holding penalty ALL DAY.
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speaking of calls ... or no calls .... I dont recall the JaQ's being called for a single holding penalty ALL DAY.
They got called for one, early on, but that was the only one.
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After the Broncos game, every questionable call he makes will be heavily scrutinized. If I were him I would probably call it quits after this season.
So you are saying you would quit your job if you had a little adversity...sounds like you don't have any mental toughness, and well, if that's the case....your last check will be mailed to you next week !
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They got called for one, early on, but that was the only one.
I didnt go over the game log .... I just didnt recall any being called and noticed several that whould have been. I also missed the first 3 minutes or so of the game.
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They got called for one, early on, but that was the only one.
Yeah, it was on Milford Brown, the Texans declined it since it was 4th and 4 and then sat around with their thumbs up their butts while JAX's first team offense ran it right through the punt return team.
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