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Old 09-21-2008   #1
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Our outside linebackers have been terrible these first two games. It's obvious that we are going to be exploited on a week to week basis for our lack of speed at OLB.

My question is, what do we do? What are our options that are already on the roster?

I don't know what Xavier Adibi's health status is but if someone could provide a update on that, it would be nice.

At this point I would rather have a guy out there that can run in pursuit with no tackling ability than our OLBs. Atleast then we could slow some of these plays down, rather than giving up 10+ yards on dink and dunk plays or QB runs. Diles and Greenwood have terrible pursuit ability and really aren't very good tacklers. Diles can make a tackle if the guy is running right at him, but ask him to cover a TE or make a tackle on a shifty offensive player and your asking too much.
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Our outside linebackers have been terrible these first two games. It's obvious that we are going to be exploited on a week to week basis for our lack of speed at OLB.

My question is, what do we do? What are our options that are already on the roster?

I don't know what Xavier Adibi's health status is but if someone could provide a update on that, it would be nice.

At this point I would rather have a guy out there that can run in pursuit with no tackling ability than our OLBs who have terrible pursuit ability and really aren't very good tacklers. Diles can make a tackle if the guy is running right at him, but ask him to cover a TE or make a tackle on a shifty offensive player and your asking too much.
Our OLBers are horrible. Diles puts up tackle numbers but its not b/c he is attacking the LOS.

Good news is this draft is appearing to be a good draft for OLB and we have both of our 1st day picks.

Unless we have to pick #1 again we should be drafting a solid OLB in the first.
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Our OLBers are horrible. Diles puts up tackle numbers but its not b/c he is attacking the LOS.
Good news is this draft is appearing to be a good draft for OLB and we have both of our 1st day picks.

Unless we have to pick #1 again we should be drafting a solid OLB in the first.
Diles and Greenwood ..... remond me of Jay Foreman. Lots of tackles .... after the guy picks up 8 yards.


Yep , Our LB's are a liability.

I'm hoping beyond all hope that Adibi gets on the field soon if for no other reason to see what we have in him and what we need to fix.

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I've been saying this for two seasons now and people just don't listen. Our outside linebackers are garbage!
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I agree with this post. Swing passes and screen passes are staples in our opponents game plans against us.

Along with Adibi, I would like to see Molden and Okam get extended playing time. Lets get the youngsters out on the field.
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Any update on Adibi?

How about these other guys? I wouldn't mind Thompson or Bentley getting significant playing time. Can't get much worse than Greenwood and Diles at this point. Two guys who really shouldn't be starters for any team.

We also don't have a safety to cover these linebackers' mistakes, or just lack of athletic ability. I think it's more of the latter. If we had a guy like Bob Sanders, or even Kenny Phillips we wouldn't be having as much problem defending these short throws over the middle or to the outside that end up going for way more yardage than they should. Or the QB runs that we saw today.

We obviously can't do anything about this now, but we desperately need to get some more athletic outside linebackers and a safety in this next draft.

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I've been saying this for two seasons now and people just don't listen. Our outside linebackers are garbage!
I was saying this a little bit last year, and I was actually calling out for Adibi to be drafted by us. I'm so happy he was. However, the problem is larger than just one player. We need to draft a stock of athletic linebackers to come in here and re-energize this group. Greenwood looks like he doesn't even care. Almost as if he just really doesn't want to get injured before he retires.

I really think Adibi can be one of those guys for us, but he has got to get on the field this year and cement his position at that WLB spot.

I saw threetoadpete and Vinny's post in another thread talking about the Steelers and their linebackers, and you know they've got it figured out. They've got alot of ATHLETIC linebackers on that roster. Guys like Timmons coming of the bench and not only giving their starter some rest but, as Vinny pointed out, also to matchup to certain formations. We have got to invest in the linebacker and safety positions in the draft, especially in the tough nosed division that we play in.

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Does anybody have an update on Adibi? Please provide it if you do.
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Default Re: Our OLBs

This is the reason why i think we will be KICKING ourselves for picking Amobi instead of patrick willis, who went 11th to SF.
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Does anybody have an update on Adibi? Please provide it if you do.

The only thing I know is he is out with an achilles injury, not sure when to expect him back though.
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I've been saying this for two seasons now and people just don't listen. Our outside linebackers are garbage!

Uh, youre not the only one trust me. Its well documented how I have felt about our OLB's for along time now.
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The only thing I know is he is out with an achilles injury, not sure when to expect him back though.
I had said before the season started that we should've IR'd Adibi. That would've allowed us to keep Kevis Coley while Adibi rehabbed and bulked up a bit more.

Either way, I agree that OLB is a huge problem for this defense. WE NEED SPEED!!
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Where is Corley? Both he and Moffitt made a bunch of tackles in the last game, all be it against now non-roster players. But at least they showed when they got their "chance".
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Where is Corley? Both he and Moffitt made a bunch of tackles in the last game, all be it against now non-roster players. But at least they showed when they got their "chance".
He was just released from the practice squad a week or two ago. We signed a TE to replace him. I guess because Bruener's been hurt. Other than that, I haven't got a clue why they brought in another TE.
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Where is Corley? Both he and Moffitt made a bunch of tackles in the last game, all be it against now non-roster players. But at least they showed when they got their "chance".
Kevis Coley? He was cut from the practice squad last week... I liked him too, but I don't think he would make a difference for us right now.
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I had said before the season started that we should've IR'd Adibi. That would've allowed us to keep Kevis Coley while Adibi rehabbed and bulked up a bit more.

Either way, I agree that OLB is a huge problem for this defense. WE NEED SPEED!!

Bring this guy out of retirement.....




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Uh, youre not the only one trust me. Its well documented how I have felt about our OLB's for along time now.
I think I'm probably the first one ever to complain about that position..
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I think I'm probably the first one ever to complain about that position..

No way man I was first!
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No way man I was first!
You should have seen some of the posts on the old board ..... Hence my reference to Jay Foremen and our current OLB.s



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No way man I was first!
I may not be the 1st but Iam sure of one thing

I WILL NOT BE THE LAST to say the olb's stink.
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No way man I was first!
I was jsut kidding. For some reason the smileys arent showing.
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