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Old 09-19-2008   #161
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I'm rooting for my home town boys, but make no mistake about it, the titan defense will sure as hell not make it easy for them.

every time i think of the haynesworth vs. meyers match up, i flashback to the steelers game when Hampton pushed meyers all the way in the backfield & then pancaked him something terrible.....in other words, that match up is grossly uneven for the texans....& assuredly will cause problems for us in some form.

Other than that i just think that if we can give schaub some time (something he really didn't have against the steelers), we'll be ok. The name of the game is pressure for the titans & if they can't generate that they turn into a mediocore defense pretty quick. I think Brown will look better than he did in the steelers game & against KVB just b/c he's already seen pretty much the best DE's in the league already....not saying he'll win the matchup, but that KVB will hardly be a factor.

Defensively.... hey, it's not remotely possible to look worse than we did against the steelers, at least I don't think it is, but i doubt we'll find that out this week b/c the titans don't have nearly the caliber of weapons that the steelers did. Having said that they have 1 really fast weapon in CJ & if we can somewhat contain him & get them in some 3rd & long situations with the statue that is Kerry Collins.....Mario & Meco & hopefully someone else on the defensive side can make a play or two.

I won't predict b/c this is the NFL & anything can happen...but the only people who wouldn't pick the titans at this point are homers & people who just don't know the sport........ with all that has gone on with our boys i just hope for a reasonably competitve & exciting game.....& win!! go texans!!
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I think the Titans are coming in too cocky and the Texans are ready to step up. The Titans SHOULD win but the Texans steal this game.

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If it wasnt for that one day last year NO ONE would have heard of him outside of Nashville. I wouldn't necessarily brag on the fact that my team needed 8 field goals to beat a team that was banged up. Yes i know vy was out so you were down your "starting" QB but the better one was playing.

Bironas is young and nursing injury already. Based on that he wont last long enough in the league to make the hall of fame.

BTW he and Brown have the exact FG percentage this year. Yes Bironas has double the field goals of Brown, but that is a whopping 2!
which day and which record?
8 field goals is an NFL record. Bironas' successful kicks from 52, 25, 21, 30, 28, 43, and 29 yards (twice) -- plus two extra points -- also set an NFL single-game record of 26 points by a kicker. That eclipsed the 4-year-old record of 23 points set by Billy Cundiff of the Dallas Cowboys against the New York Giants.

Rob Bironas also drilled a 60-yard field goal with seven seconds remaining to lift the Tennessee Titans to a 20-17 victory over the Indianapolis Colts at LP Field that set a franchise record and gained nationwide recognition.


Bironas is not nursing injury. He just was not active in preseason due to a groin issue. He's fine best I can tell. Bironas has has already made his mark on the Hall Of Fame. I don't expect them to give him a bust in 2038 or anything. I'm just saying that his shoes and a ball he kicked are there next to his name. That's something.

Vince may have been our best qb last year. I don't know. It's difficult to judge as Collins only had one start. I believe that Collins in better than he was last year and that Young has not grown enough, if at all. At this time Collins is the starter and the better qb in my opinion. That not to say that Vince won't grow into a dominate mvp as McNair did.

It's just that Vince is not very good right now. Still has potential but it's a maturation process. Besides, he's injured so it really doesn't matter. Collins looked terrific in absolutely terrible conditions in Cincinnati last week so I have few worries about the comfortable confines of LP Field and the fair weather expected there.

I don't know what the deal is with the Texans, they may be soft, unlucky or the victim of bad conditioning... I'm sorry if they were banged up. Sage is a beast. It baffles me as to why he is not the starter apart from the money game. Big Matt... I just don't know about him... he reminds me of this guy...



meanwhile Rosenfels finished 22 of 35 for 290 yards, with four touchdowns and three interceptions. That tied an NFL record for 4th quarter TD's... It begs the question, "Why is Matt Schaub the starter?"

on your lame injury card excuse...
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WR 11 P.Williams, RB 29 C.Brown, CB 41 K.Herndon, FB 48
C.Cramer, G/C 64 L.Harris, DE 77 S.Conover, WR 81 B.Jones, DT 96 C.Simon

QB 10 V.Young* did not play

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CB 25 D.Wynn, RB 35 S.Gado, DE 53 S.Orr, G 64 K.Studdard, T 78
R.Butler, WR 80 A.Johnson, WR 86 H.Williams, TE 87 M.Bruener
http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamece...T_Gamebook.pdf

you really think it would be that different?
well, maybe it was... I hunted hard for an injury report.
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A. Green carried the ball 11 times for 39 yards. He was "injured". It was only week 7. I don't know... could'a/would'a/should'a... one yard short... whatever.

Regardless
It was killer game... I know that A.Johnson is a difference maker... but Collins had to hastily prepare with a crappy coordinator with a bad scheme and pos targets. (yes, by my own admission I am hard pressed to point to a worse set of receivers in the NFL at this time)... It's all red zone stuff. Bironas' kicks were relatively short. In all honesty I don't know the Texans roster well enough to blame your loss on injuries. It takes 53.

moving on.. Check the 3rd down efficiency in the gamebook.
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Ten 4-10-40%
Hou 1-5-20%
That's terrible on both Texans and Titans alike.
Titans had an edge in defense. Check the scoring summary.
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Texans 7/ 0 / 0 / 29 -- 36
29 4th quarter points! The defense... somehow let the Texans back in the game. We are talking about 32-7 at the beginning of the 4th quarter. Or either Sage is some form of a god... tying records...

but people say Sage who? They know Bironas... You want to know why? History is written by the victors.

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Kris Brown 1999-2008
203/262 FG ----- 77.5%
269/275 XP ------97.8%

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82/98 FG -------- 83.7%
95/97 XP -------- 97.9%

And of course 8 FG's in a game. Bet Fisher would rather have TD's than FG's.
do you have any "clutch" kicking stats to offer me? I said your guy was good but I've never seen Bironas blow a game that I can recall.
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do you have any "clutch" kicking stats to offer me? I said your guy was good but I've never seen Bironas blow a game that I can recall.
Without looking up all the clutch stats, I do recall screaming very loudly at Reliant when Brown drilled a 57 yarder to beat the Colts. I know, I know, Bironas nailed a 60 yarder to beat them as well.
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I think the Titans are coming in too cocky and the Texans are ready to step up.
I'm sorry, did the Titans recently sign Anthony Smith or Matt Hasselbeck? What are you talking about? I'd love to see a link of some Titans players showing disrespect or arrogance... offer me some evidence that the Tacks are looking past the Cows... are you just making this up? I seriously want to know what you are talking about.
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I think Brown and Bironas are on par with each other, to borrow your clich'e. I don't think one or the other is that much better than the other right now.
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Without looking up all the clutch stats, I do recall screaming very loudly at Reliant when Brown drilled a 57 yarder to beat the Colts. I know, I know, Bironas nailed a 60 yarder to beat them as well.
I remember that. Cool. But what in the wild world of sports is this?

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The potential bright side of this upcoming game is Collins history of minimalistic long bomb threat.

In 164 games and 5,277 passing attempts, only 439 have gone for more than 20 yds and 65 for more than 40 yds.

Of course, if the Tacks RBs can't be stopped, and no QB pressure can be had, then Collins can plink and plunk us to death.
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I think Brown and Bironas are on par with each other, to borrow your clich'e. I don't think one or the other is that much better than the other right now.
I'll act like that other guy... hang on..

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uhh... you guys needed five fg to beat the Dolphins! You stink-a!


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you know, I've gone around the web, looking at stats, rankings, reading summaries and the best I can surmise is that Brown is a guy who has improved since that choke job that he allegedly missed on purpose. It seems there was a turning point in November 2006 when Texans Coach Kubiak made this comment about his kicking game.
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so maybe he's not the joker I remember three years ago. http://www.houstontexans.com/news/St...?story_id=2996

it seems he's turned it around. The worst of what I could find was too old to seem relevant in light of recent performance.
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Some interesting numbers. The Tacks have won the last 6 games in this series. In the last 5 games, the Tacks have not won by more than 8..........two of the five games were won by 6, two others were won by just 3.
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I can't believe there is an actual pissing contest centered around who has the best kicker. Times like this is proof that I spend too much time on these message boards!
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Some interesting numbers. The Tacks have won the last 6 games in this series. In the last 5 games, the Tacks have not won by more than 8..........two of the five games were won by 6, two others were won by just 3.
That's good relevant history there. I really enjoyed that other post you dropped last hour. You seem to abound with insight. However, I am going to go out on a limb and call this one as not being all that close. I expect the Titans to play as champions and completely obliterate the Texans. Well, not obliterate. Dismantle the Texans in a fashion similar to that in the way the Bengals were caged last week.

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I can't believe there is an actual pissing contest centered around who has the best kicker. Times like this is proof that I spend too much time on these message boards!
a pissing contest? I don't really think that's quite the word for it. I'm over here making references to Blazing Saddles and posting theme songs with instrumentation by The Knack. So, no, this is not an ACTUAL pissing contest by any stretch of the imagination. I find it as humorous as you do it seems.
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Some interesting numbers. The Tacks have won the last 6 games in this series. In the last 5 games, the Tacks have not won by more than 8..........two of the five games were won by 6, two others were won by just 3.
exactly right!!! The only reason the titans were 10-6 was because of us and two plays in those games. They say the league is a one possesion game well it happened to us twice. At home Dunta got beat and in Tenn when Jacoby fumbled. that is how close yall were to being 8-8. Thats in the past. The games have always been close. I am done talking anything with this dude. i just cant see the merit of someone coming to an opposing fan site and insulting their fans. great you like your team... great you think they are better than ours great.... relax broham.... we ragg on the titans and tennesee because its fun and easy and well its our site. i can only speak for myself but.. I dont go to other team sites and looking for it. I will mix it up. if its presented. So yes, her you may see a few posts regarding inbred children of uranus and yes you may hear a few moonshine cracks. Its here only...not on your site. If there are Texan fans that go to other sites and start trouble.. then they deserve to get some grief. Your not gonna convince us. Titans suck end of story.


Athens of the South? really? I thought the Athens of the south would be the actual Athens, you know Athens , Georgia.........
I think texans bill is right.. they stole it from the jets just like they stole team and colors. Personally, I think they named it Titans was be cause it rhymed. I still prefer the tackling elvi or the Algores
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You fickle Tinnbred fans.... I thought Vince Young won that game all by himself...
The exulted one allowed him a moment of glory knowing that there would be plenty more for him in the future ... you know?
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on your lame injury card excuse...


http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamece...T_Gamebook.pdf

you really think it would be that different?
well, maybe it was... I hunted hard for an injury report.


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A. Green carried the ball 11 times for 39 yards. He was "injured". It was only week 7. I don't know... could'a/would'a/should'a... one yard short... whatever.
The Texans led the league in injuries last year. Inactives do not take into account those placed on injured reserve. Of course that leads the question as to why the Texans keep having so many players on IR? not saying it would have changed much. The games tend to be competitive and Tennessee usually the victor. Kind of like when the Texans play the Jaguars.
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Illiteration - The misspelling of two consecutive words on a message board post.
yeah, I'm familiar with the Urban and UnWord Dictionaries...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...m=illiteration
http://www.unwords.com/unword/illiteration.html

I'm not following... sorry... must be TennHead-itis...

what? did I make some type of typographical or grammatical error?

Alliteration is spelled with an A.

I guess your post is illiteration?
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yeah, I'm familiar with the Urban and UnWord Dictionaries...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...m=illiteration
http://www.unwords.com/unword/illiteration.html

I'm not following... sorry... must be TennHead-itis...

what? did I make some type of typographical or grammatical error?

Alliteration is spelled with an A.

I guess your post is illiteration?
What are we Canadian? correcting grammar? just let er rip.... grammar be damned.......

hey hey hey Fat Albert is coming this way........ can some one alert the guys in white jackets.
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So the fact that they are the Imbred children of Uranus has no irony here? I know its been said a million times couldnt resist

The Titans produced other offspring, mating with either other Titans or other creatures. These offspring are also called Titans.

the Titans of Greek mythology are the twelve children of Gaia and Uranus:
http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/r...h/g/Titans.htm
I suppose it does. I said it was worth of lampooning. What do you want from me? You want me to cop to butt sex? I don't have a sisiter and if I did I certainly wouldn't **** her. I'm an intelligent, civilized southern gentleman. I was taught well by my parents. I treat people well. I go to church. I vote. I've got a family. So, I like the local NFL team. Sue me.

Your logo is a cow. Although it's sacred and revered in India we eat them for lunch in America. I'm not over here wearing out the livestock routine. What are you go to do? Give me a lecture about the culture of the cowboy and the cattle drive at which point I suppose I could point to the team from Dallas and imply that they are your master.. then you all chant 19-10 and then I respond 23-22...

do we really want to do that?
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