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Old 09-11-2008   #1
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Default Great, serious article on Vince Young

Theres a place for jokes, and theres a place for serious discussion. Lets not ruin this thread. This guy wrote a pretty interesting read on Vince Young, that is FILLED with controversial stuff. I wonder what you guys think:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8550254?MSNHPHMA

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I'm going to do my best to avoid turning this into an I-told-you-so column.

But the truth is, I told you before the 2006 draft that Vince Young was primed for NFL failure. He entered the league with an attitude, mindset and supporting cast totally unprepared to survive the pressure, challenge and responsibility that goes along with the most prestigious and difficult job in all of sports.

When I explained all of this in 2006, my naive and misguided critics called me an Uncle Tom. Yeah, they ripped me for attempting to issue a young black kid a warning about what awaited him in The League and the attitude he would need to cope and excel.

Some people foolishly think it's every black media member's job to assist in the mental and emotional crippling of black youth. We're supposed to blow rainbows up the asses of every black athlete who "makes it" and assure him/her that anyone who utters a word of criticism is a jealous bigot or irrational sellout.
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You are going to get criticized playing quarterback. If your instinct is to dismiss the criticism as racist, maybe you shouldn't play the position. If you are surrounded by people who spend every waking minute telling you that you can do no wrong and that everyone who criticizes you is a bigot, then maybe you shouldn't play quarterback.

The position requires thick skin and genuine self-confidence. If you need four or five male groupies with you at all times, a half million dollars of jewelry around your neck and wrists and a dozen tattoos to feel confident, then maybe you should play wide receiver or start rapping.

The average NFL fan has no idea how much time a franchise spends working on self-esteem issues with a typical player. You think these guys are self-assured. Many of them are not. They self-medicate with booze, drugs, steroids, bling, women and attention-getting stunts such as name changes.

Remember when Terrell Owens' assistant claimed he had 25 million reasons to live? It was an accidental moment of clarity and honesty. Too many players have their whole sense of self-worth tied up in their contracts.

It doesn't take much to crack a man with no real identity, especially if he's grown accustomed to having all of his shortcomings rationalized.
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Default Re: Great, serious article on Vince Young

Whitlock was on Rome yesterday and said that he was writing this article. Very informative.

All rivalry and joking aside, I do hope that VY gets his head together. I hate to see a guy with so much talent and potential lose his mind, especially given how much of a role model he is to so many young people.
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Default Re: Great, serious article on Vince Young

Jason Whitlock is spot on.

He's still gonna get called an Uncle Tom, but he's calling it like it is.

Vince Young is doomed.
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Default Re: Great, serious article on Vince Young

The question is: What do Titan fans do when he takes the field in a month? Boo him again? Cheer even if they don't really mean it? Sticky situation.
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The question is: What do Titan fans do when he takes the field in a month? Boo him again? Cheer even if they don't really mean it? Sticky situation.
From what I gather, VY is going to have to earn their support back through hard work and dedication off the field and actual good performance on. Once the crowd turns, you know from our own experiences how divided a fan base can become over a QB.

Based upon what little evidence we can glean, the question is whether VY has the heart and desire to make that dedication and deal with the criticism that will come from all angles.
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Default Re: Great, serious article on Vince Young

I know, its a tough decision. But theres no way you can expect 50,000 people to give a bad QB "Love and Support"
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Default Re: Great, serious article on Vince Young

I have found Jason Whitlock to be very good in print (ESPN, not so much). He's written some of the best stuff I've read this year by far. He wrote one on Michael Vick I found to be incredibly interesting at a time when I was tired of hearing about the whole thing. This is yet another interesting read.
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Default Re: Great, serious article on Vince Young

Great read,thanks for the link.
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Default Re: Great, serious article on Vince Young

Thanks for the article. Whitlock has always been one to say what he thinks and not follow the herd.

Titanville has been bad enough but can you imagine the shit-storm from the fans if VY played in Philly or New York?
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Default Re: Great, serious article on Vince Young

Straight to the point article and not a lot of PC fluff, we need more of this type of writing. Although I do not always agree with Jason Whitlock's perspectives I think he was spot on with this one.

He is also pretty good on Rome when he guest hosts the show every now and then. It's much easier to listen to Whitlock then Jim Rome in my opinion.

Thanks for posting it as well.
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He is also pretty good on Rome when he guest hosts the show every now and then. It's much easier to listen to Whitlock then Jim Rome in my opinion.
It's easier to listen to a flock of squawking birds than to listen to Jim Rome.

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Rome is so much better when he's offscript. which is 5% of the show

anyway, back to Young
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Default Re: Great, serious article on Vince Young

Jason Whitlock is a great sports writer and isn't afraid to touch on subjects that will lead to people calling him stuff like "Uncle Tom."

I think he's pretty spot on in his assessment of VY and his lack of a true mental and emotional support structure that leads to some toughness and an ability to navigate his way through the challenging spots that a career in the NFL is going to bring. I also personally think that VY lacks an aptitude for the game above and beyond his pure althetism. Nor do I think he's committed to really studying and learning the game and schemes his coaches need him to learn. When you're naturally talented at something, you can fall into an attitude of not needing to practice or re-learn certain tendancies because you believe sheer talent alone can overcome shortcomings. People can balk at the suggestion that you NEED to practice in order to get better and hone your skills. You get cocky, especially if you have a track record of winning and everyone around you never questions your ability or committment to putting in the work to get better.

I don't think VY will be successful in this league either, and my cursory opinion of this was formed by comparing him to Mike Vick. Now, with all this other stuff coming to light, I tend to think this even more strongly. I don't wish ill on the guy, but some folks just don't "get" what they need to do to get around in the world on their own, with confidence and intelligence.
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