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Old 09-10-2008   #21
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7. I can't overemphasize the reality of this enough: Schuab received a concussion on that first sack late in the first quarter. Up until that point he was sharp, poised, and accurate. While the hit didn't look violent, he was clearly shaken up. Then, he literally doesn't make another good pass or decision the entire half. After halftime, he comes out and looks pretty much like himself again (after he's cleared up some in the head) but the team and circumstances around him had deteriorated beyond repair. HUGE MISTAKE BY THE TEXAN'S STAFF TO LEAVE HIM IN THERE AND RISK HIS HEALTH AND COST THE TEAM A CHANCE TO WIN!!!


Rewatch the game if you can. It's very illuminating!
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I wonder about the "dinged-up" thing.

If he had a concussion, what are the odds he plays this week? If your observations and deductions are accurate*, it must have been mild if he looked better in the second half.


*I don't know though, I would like to think the Texans staff could identify a concussion.
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Schaub looked that way in the Dallas game........without the ding. I am one that is still quite skeptical of this being mostly a pattern of sporadic play........we'll just have to see if the "bell tolls" again during the next game or two. If so, it's time for Sage.

Kubiak in some of his post game quotes was speaking of the need to "dumb down" the offense to allow Schaub some faith healing. This is so earily reminiscent of another Texans era.


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Counting Schaub’s poor start in his last preseason performance at Dallas in which his passes were off target under a relentless pass rush, he has started poorly in two games in a row. Sunday is the ideal time for Schaub to recover and restore the fans’ faith in him.

The offense is predicated on quick passes to receivers who have the size and strength to break tackles. That means the quarterback has to get rid of the ball fast and be accurate.

It makes sense that if the offensive linemen are getting pushed back into Schaub’s facemask that he should take a shorter drop and fling it. Or use the shotgun. But Schaub isn’t comfortable in the shotgun. Only Seattle used it less last season than the Texans.

One thing that’s impressive about Sage Rosenfels is that he excels at taking the short drop, making quick decisions and getting rid of the ball in a hurry. And he’s accurate, too.

And speaking of Rosenfels, if the Texans lose to the Ravens and Schaub doesn’t play well again, this franchise is going to have its first big-time quarterback controversy.
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We basically sucked on Sunday.
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McClain according to the link.
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Good stuff Dale.
Here's some questions for you:
OLine -
We knew that Winstin & Pitts were our best OLinemen, and your take on
Brown, atleast how he did in the first half, is encouraging.
Your thoughts on the rest of the OLine starters - Myers & the RG (Briesle?) ?
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In spite of your favorable comments on Okoye, you probably know he made not a single tackle, not even an assist ? Did Mario do as well as we initially thought ? And Weavers performance ?

1. Myers was pushed around in the run game some of the time. His pass protection looked fine but not special. Briesel had a couple plays where he couldn't make his assignments on the run play. I had a hard time discerning whether he got physically beat or simply took a wrong step. As a rule though, they looked like decent but I never saw them dominate or execute at a high level. Winston, on the other hand, in the run game either drove his man back 3+ yards or was able to block and seal him and then get to the second level and get his guy there to. It's really the first time I saw clearly how good he can be.

2. Okoye generally shot the gap. Being on Mario's side, the play often flowed away from him. I certainly didn't mean to imply that he had a great game. However, he was surprisingly strong at the line and often created penetration especially when blocked with one. On plays to his side he tended to get lost in the mess a bit but I never saw him driven back.


3. Mario was awesome. Both his sacks were essentially blown assignments, but he was the one that made the play. Basically every other pass he was collapsing the tackle or the guard if it was a stunt and putting pressure on Ben R. And, on running downs he was very sturdy, held his ground, shed blocks and then assisted on the play. He was great!
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Who says Schaub isn't comfortable in the shot gun? I thought Kubiak just didn't like using it.

Nice generalization about Rosenfels. Ask how accurate he is when he is throwing interceptions. Or maybe look at how he performed on the road against a good team last year with Andre Johnson in the lineup:

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All quarterbacks have strengths and weakness. But I got to give that an eh.
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Quoted fortruth. If im not mistaken, Amobi was the guy who laid the hit on Big Ben that hurt him.
Wasn't he hurt on the Mario sack?
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Schaub looked that way in the Dallas game........without the ding. I am one that is still quite skeptical of this being mostly a pattern of sporadic play........we'll just have to see if the "bell tolls" again during the next game or two. If so, it's time for Sage.

Kubiak in some of his post game quotes was speaking of the need to "dumb down" the offense to allow Schaub some faith healing. This is so earily reminiscent of another Texans era.
In the Dallas game, Studdard was flopping around right in front of him. And, he didn't make nearly the poor decisions there as he did in the Steeler game though the pressure was much worse in Dallas. In Dallas he just made about 4 bad throws but not the same kind of inexplicable decisions that he did in Pittsburgh.
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Wasn't he hurt on the Mario sack?
Yes, it was Mario that hurt him.
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The missed block by Leach just may have been a game changer. Schaub played scared and stupid for nearly the rest of the game. I wouldn't go as far to say we would have won, but I will say Schaub would not have played nearly as bad as he did.

It was a wicked hit.
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FWIW - Brown mentioned at the P&P breakfast yesterday that he had cramped up REAL bad in the 3rd quarter, but forced himself to play through it. He said he needed to keep himself better hydrated in the future.
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FWIW - Brown mentioned at the P&P breakfast yesterday that he had cramped up REAL bad in the 3rd quarter, but forced himself to play through it. He said he needed to keep himself better hydrated in the future.
That's a great thing to hear from a rook. He fought through the pain (just like Mario), and he is learning how to be better prepared.

I really think we have an anchor at LT and RT for years to come. I just hope our inside guys can figure out how to deal with those big NT's in the 3-4, or even just in general. Chester does good as usual, but Brisiel and Myers not so much.
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I like Meyers...

He has a little nastiness to his game...
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I like Meyers...

He has a little nastiness to his game...
Yeah he gets real pissed after he gets steamrolled.

as for this thread, I don't have as upbeat a take on our front 7 myself....I thought just about everyone was getting pushed around and blocked easily.
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After watching the 2nd half:

Okoye continued to play well and so did Mario.

The Oline blocking in the run game looked bad largely due to our RBs. Slaton, three times, missed the hole for what would've been a big run. If you have DVR, check out the run left at 5:17 to go in the 4th quarter. Daniels and the oline have the outside totally sealed for Slaton for what would've surely been a big gain. Instead, he puts his head down right into the DE. There are other plays like that but that one will clearly show what I'm talking about.

Brown had a bad third quarter, otherwise I thought he looked good

Where are the LBs and Safeties??????????
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I like Meyers...

He has a little nastiness to his game...
Casey Hampton ripped us apart in the middle, but then again the dude is a beast and a 4 time Pro Bowler. They have to find a way to bulk up inside.
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He has a little nastiness to his game...
I like him too, but he was often overpowered Sunday.

He's light years better than Flabbygan. That guy was horrible (with the Texans)
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