VY's Mommy: "He's hurting inside and out."

[Hervoyel]

Originally Posted by The Dream

No he owes "himself" to seek out help.

I just sent this in to 790, I think all of you should read it

Has anyone ever thought, that Vince's problems can be deeper than "just football?" For god sakes no one has any idea of what's going on his real life. He had a rough childhood, his father was absent, and just got out of jail last year, etc. Money is nice, but money can not buy happiness. This is why there are numerous amounts of wealthy people, who are depressed. He had a good rookie year, and wanted to retire back then....WHEN HE WAS GOOD! So that right there tells me, that this is deeper than "just football." Get a clue.......

All I have ever asked from life is for an opportunity to prove that this is the most repeated and least intelligent line in human history.

If you find that money can't buy happiness then you are doing it wrong.

[Wolf]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

He can look to Kerry Collins for guidance on how to resurrect a career after you face your problems. At one point nobody trusted Collins anymore either. That's the point Vince is headed for right now. I hope they get along and are friends because Collins will probably be invaluable when Vince starts paying attention.

And yes, I know Collins problems were rooted in alcohol. It makes no difference. Collins walked into a coaches office and told him his heart wasn't in the game anymore. They (Vince and Kerry) have a lot in common in some respects.

very true and hopefully some other NFL players will contact Vince

Vince may feel like he is the only one that has problems but I recall some other players that lost parents at one time growing up .. I think there was on player that came out of florida state a few years back, lost both parents and raised by grandma ...

There are alot tough cases in NFL , hopefully they will come and help vince, because say what you will. but everyone treats it differently mentally

[The Dream]

Originally Posted by Wolf

bar wasn't set too high was it

51 pecent of passes 2,199 yards 12 tds and 13 ints 552 yards rushing 12 fumbles (3 lost)

http://www.nfl.com/players/vinceyoun...e?id=YOU617196

I agreed with what you said until you said "he was good"

the dude was having a successful season for the most part....................fact.

[The Dream]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

All I have ever asked is for an opportunity to prove that this is the most repeated and least intelligent line in human history.

If you find that money can't buy happiness then you are doing it wrong.

i bought my happiness back last night........

You got a prostitute ?

[Specnatz]

Originally Posted by The Dream

agreed


except if it's karl malone

So it is ok to rag on a guy you do not like but Please Leave Vince alone

Originally Posted by Second Honeymoon

Vince needs to put up or shut up. The media is running with this and they may be making a mountain out of a molehill but that is what happens when you sit and pout on the sideline while your team is trying to compete. Dude needs to get over it and deal with the criticism and pressure.

He overcame early criticism at Texas but this is the NFL. Whole other ballgame. I am sure he is just upset with his own performance and the performance/quality of some of his receivers. There were more than a few dropped balls at critical times. His picks were on him but aside from the 2nd INT, he didn't play that bad. He did what he was asked to do. Hand the ball off and throw or scramble on 3rd down.

At this point, any criticism or pressure he gets is his own fault. 18-11 as a starter is great but if your acting like a punk or a crybaby, any goodwill is quickly depleted.

He quit on his team, then acted like a nut job and ran off to be alone or what ever like a 5 year old running to his room and slamming the door. No body loves me waaaaaaa they made fun of me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Your are making excuses for him like everyone else. Every team will have dropped passes. AJ, Moss and Harrison are not perfect and they drop passes from time to time. Maybe if vy would throw the pass on time and in the right place the rec would have an easier time catching them. vy being told it is always everyone else's fault and now that he is the one getting the boos is not sitting well with him.

[The Dream]

Originally Posted by Polo

You got a prostitute ?

yes......................your girlfriend....lol, j/k

[rmartin65]

Originally Posted by The Dream

the dude was having a successful season for the most part....................fact.

Nope, wrong. A 66.7 passer rating, with more interceptions than TD's is not a successful season for a QB.

[Brando]

Originally Posted by Polo

You got a prostitute ?

Originally Posted by The Dream

yes......................your girlfriend....lol

As long as she's bringing me your money it's all good...


"Don't be surprised when she ask where the cash at"

[Shaft75]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

All I have ever asked from life is for an opportunity to prove that this is the most repeated and least intelligent line in human history.

If you find that money can't buy happiness then you are doing it wrong.

Mo' money, mo' problems is better.

You don't need to take things so literally, I think. In the grand scheme of things , money is the root of all evil .

Did you see how I used three other commonly used phrases? What do you think about those?

[Mr. White]

Money may not buy happiness, but it'll damn sure buy off unhappiness.

[The Dream]

Originally Posted by rmartin65

Nope, wrong. A 66.7 passer rating, with more interceptions than TD's is not a successful season for a QB.

he was a ROOKIE....who had multiple comebacks, almost got his team to the playoffs despite not playing all of the season, was ROY, went to the probowl, the media was giving him props, etc.............................that IS a good year......

[Double Barrel]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

If you find that money can't buy happiness then you are doing it wrong.

In the words of my uncle Dennis (the menace) - "Money may not buy you happiness, but it sure increases your options."

[Hookem Horns]

Originally Posted by The Dream

He had a rough childhood, his father was absent, and just got out of jail last year, etc. Money is nice, but money can not buy happiness.

You've probably just described a large percentage of NFL players.

He had a good rookie year, and wanted to retire back then....WHEN HE WAS GOOD!

Just how good was he? His passer ratings was 66.7. He had 12 TD and 13 INTs. The same season David Carr had a 82.1 rating with 11 TD and 12 INTs.

[Wolf]

Originally Posted by The Dream

the dude was having a successful season for the most part....................fact.

I thought he was another struggling QB and fans and the NFL made more out of him than what was reality

his number compare to alex smith. yet one considered a bust other with potential...

I think he was hurt by the media and fans.. mediocre season but goes into probowl and then rookie of the year ...lots of success early and did it go to his head and think he was good?(nothing wrong with confidence)(like shetexan said) but ... interesting choices he has done over the years ....

some questioned early about when you have a new OC .. you go back to college instead during the offseason(nothing wrong with that and i applaud that)

I just wonder like TB stated the issues ...

if I put my tin foil hat on.. what was done at UT to let "Vince be Vince" and now "vince can't be vince " on an NFL level (or the coaches won't let him).. who knows

we agree to disagree, but in common I think we both want him to get better mentally and I pray that he does

[Honoring Earl 34]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

Momma needs to yank her tit out of her "baby boy's" mouth and allow his sack to drop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Jao6Z6v9w

[The Dream]

You've probably just described a large percentage of NFL players

different people have different problems........no one knows what's going on in his personal life.......................

[The Dream]

I thought he was another struggling QB and fans and the NFL made more out of him than what was reality

he was a ROOKIE....who had multiple comebacks, almost got his team to the playoffs despite not playing all of the season, was ROY, went to the probowl, the media was giving him props, etc.............................that IS a good year......

[Brando]

Originally Posted by The Dream

the media overhyped the guy

......Fixed....


Seriously, I hope he gets better mentally and physically.