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View Poll Results: Given what we have seen from Shaub, where does his career project to?
Elite starter. 4 8.33%
Good starter. 18 37.50%
Average starter. 20 41.67%
Poor starter/good backup. 5 10.42%
Average backup. 1 2.08%
Bradlee Van Pelt-esque, cover your eyes awfulness. 0 0%
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Old 09-09-2008   #1
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Default Time to analyse Schaub

I read this comment on ESPN's Tuesday Morning Quarterback..

Scouts Notes: Houston's Matt Schaub throws pretty well to his left -- but man does he telegraph passes when he throws right. The Steelers have obviously noticed this -- how long until every team does?

It got me to thinking, what exactly have we got ourselves for our two 2nd round picks?

He still has limited starting experience and this sort of comment makes me wonder just how effective he will be in the long term.

This is not a start Sage thread because I don't want that to happen, but I would be interested in how people think he is shaping up and what we see as his strengths and weaknesses and where we project him getting to in terms of being elite starter, good starter, average starter, poor starter/good backup etc etc.
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Default Re: Time to analyse Schaub

Schaub, like Sage, is a backup QB that is still in the process of learning to be a starter. We'll find out this year what he's made of and if it was a good decision to get him. But we don't know any of that yet.
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Default Re: Time to analyse Schaub

He made a few bad decisions, I dont think its the end of the world. I also don't htink he telegraphs passes in one direction only. The pick to Polamalu was to an AJ on his left
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Default Re: Time to analyse Schaub

I like Matt. I think by the end of this year the rest of ya'll will too (I hope).
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Default Re: Time to analyse Schaub

Fellas, even Peyton Manning has looked terrible vs. the Steelers' D so to downgrade him based on that would be ignorant
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Default Re: Time to analyse Schaub

To be honest I expect him to be a very good QB for us in the long term, but that comment I posted scared me.

If a defense knows what he is doing with the ball and can anticipate that and jump routes etc, that is seriously bad news for his long term viability.
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Default Re: Time to analyse Schaub

I read the poll wrong and picked Average. I think he'll be a good starter with time, but you're talking about playing against a defense that is a pressure cooker the entire 60 minutes. He's not going to face the Steelers every week, and I think if the running game improves by about midway through the season we'll all see something we like in him.

I didn't think Schaub telegraphed his passes at all, but I wasn't really looking for it either.
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Default Re: Time to analyse Schaub

Schaub will be an above average starter in the mold of Jake Delhomme. Not a guy who will go to the pro-bowl every year but he'll win games for us. I'm not at all worried about Schaub's performance against the Steelers. I think the coaches did a bad job preparing our guys and you have to tip your hat to the Steelers. I think we'll win this week against the Ravens and all be right in the Texans universe. Ofcourse I admit I could be wrong and we might be talking about Tim Tebow as our qb next year.
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Fellas, even Peyton Manning has looked terrible vs. the Steelers' D so to downgrade him based on that would be ignorant
So are you saying Matt Schaub is similar to Peyton Manning on some level?

Schaub is 4-10 as a starter and won 2 of the last 8.

That sounds more like Carr than Manning.

Your use of the word "ignorance" is not appropriate.
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too early to tell

one thing you can say Texans better find a running game to help him out
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Default Re: Time to analyse Schaub

I don't know how good he will be. I know he'd suffice if our running game was as good as it's supposed to be.

If I was Kubiak, I'd give him this season to sink or swim. If I don't like what I see I draft a QB early next year and create some competition.
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still too early to tell but I'm not as bullish on him as I used to be. Right now he is a poor mans Chad Pennington.
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So are you saying Matt Schaub is similar to Peyton Manning on some level?

Schaub is 4-10 as a starter and won 2 of the last 8.

That sounds more like Carr than Manning.

Your use of the word "ignorance" is not appropriate.
At least Carr was tough, every time Schaub gets hit, you hold your breath.

Even Kubiak seems to think (from reading some answers in the postgame quotes) when Schaub gets hit about whether he is 'dinged' and Rosenfels needs to warm up.
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At least Carr was tough, every time Schaub gets hit, you hold your breath.

Even Kubiak seems to think (from reading some answers in the postgame quotes) when Schaub gets hit about whether he is 'dinged' and Rosenfels needs to warm up.
jerky is tough too but that doesn't make a good QB either. Not being tough enough and being a bad QB are both bad problems.
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Disappointed that there's not an "incomplete" there.

How much did we see from Vinny Testaverde his first, what, decade, in the league? He turned out all right.
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I know that I'm disappointed with him.

I know that if I was the opposing team's DC, I'd have them pin their ears back and put a hard lick on him as soon as possible, and he wouldn't be sh!t after that.
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Disappointed that there's not an "incomplete" there.

How much did we see from Vinny Testaverde his first, what, decade, in the league? He turned out all right.
So hadaad, your telling me that there is hope for Carr yet?

I won't get rid of my Carr jersey then!! One day it might be worth something.
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Hey, as long as there's life, there's hope. And I still have *my* Carr jersey as well.
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But hey, you know what?

Even though Schaub hasn't met my expectations, after what I've been hearing, reading, and seeing lately, if the Titans were to offer VY for Schaub, I'd say no way unless you throw in next year's 1st round draft pick.

I mean, jeez louise, they got themselves a real nut case over in Tennessee.
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I mean, jeez louise, they got themselves a real nut case over in Tennessee.
Yes, they do. And I was one of those that wanted him over Mario or Bush. Amazing how time changes your perspective on things. LOL
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