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Old 09-03-2008   #1
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Default Left tackle resolved?

Pre-season is over and Duane Brown was never manhandled in my opinion. I'm sure he was not perfect, but to my untrained eye, he did quite well and should get better with NFL experience. Pittsburgh should be a very good test.
Could it be this trade down selection could be the resolution many of us have clamored for? Could next year draft happen without me screaming "get a left tackle"?

To get a decent starter and more in a trade down could be the best trade Texans ever accomplished. Hope I am not sobbing after Sunday.
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Pre-season is over and Duane Brown was never manhandled in my opinion. I'm sure he was not perfect, but to my untrained eye, he did quite well and should get better with NFL experience. Pittsburgh should be a very good test.
Could it be this trade down selection could be the resolution many of us have clamored for? Could next year draft happen without me screaming "get a left tackle"?

To get a decent starter and more in a trade down could be the best trade Texans ever accomplished. Hope I am not sobbing after Sunday.
He got worked a bit against Dallas, but still gave up no sacks. By the same tokem, that was Ware on a lot of those plays.
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He seems to get better as the game goes along and I can't tell if that is just him getting used to the NFL, or maybe it is because the opponents starters don't stay in the game very long. Or maybe both.

Either way, like badboy said, he hasn't made any large mistakes which is good. Hopefully this carries over to the season and he isn't confused by the 3-4 blitzes executed by big strong defensive players he will most definitely receive.
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resolved? No - since he hasn't played a full game yet. Do we feel more at ease since he played so well in the preseason? Sure. Consistency is what separates these guys. For example even David Carr can look good at some times...but his body of work is so inconsistent that he is useless as a starting QB in this league.
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It's all but completely premature to declare we've now got a permanent solution to our LT issues. Brown has played not a single snap in a single NFL regular season game, where he will see blitzs, stunts, etc. and the kind of individual effort from DLine personnel across from him he is yet to experience. What we've seen in his preseason performances is encouraging and therefor offers hope we've now found a franchise LT, but not until Sunday in Pittsburg do the real tests begin.
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it looks good so far. would have been nice to let him sit and learn. we will know soon with the first couple of games
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Would all of you say that he's ahead of where we thought Charles Spencer was going into his rookie season prior to breaking his leg?

I feel like we maybe got the right guy for the job but until they start playing real full-length games we won't know what's up. He saw a lot of vanilla in the last four weeks. Starting Sunday he's going to Baskin-Robbins. Pittsburgh is a murderous place to take a rookie LT. We'll learn a lot about Duane Brown on Sunday.
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Pittsburgh is a murderous place to take a rookie LT. We'll learn a lot about Duane Brown on Sunday.
No doubt, I have been thinking about that all week.
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Would all of you say that he's ahead of where we thought Charles Spencer was going into his rookie season prior to breaking his leg?

I feel like we maybe got the right guy for the job but until they start playing real full-length games we won't know what's up. He saw a lot of vanilla in the last four weeks. Starting Sunday he's going to Baskin-Robbins. Pittsburgh is a murderous place to take a rookie LT. We'll learn a lot about Duane Brown on Sunday.
No doubt. Pittsburgh is a great test. I have liked what I have seen and BELIEVE he is the answer. But, it's a bit of a leap of faith at this point, and I admit I could be wrong. Time will tell here pretty quick. If he survives the first 5 weeks in good shape, then I will be a very happy camper.
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No doubt. Pittsburgh is a great test. I have liked what I have seen and BELIEVE he is the answer. But, it's a bit of a leap of faith at this point, and I admit I could be wrong. Time will tell here pretty quick. If he survives the first 5 weeks in good shape, then I will be a very happy camper.

Yep. He'll get a good test this coming Sunday, he'll be playing the whole game. Maybe. We'll know a lot more at him in about a month or so. One thing is for sure though, I think he was a good pick. He is going to be good at his postion, just maybe not so much out of the starting gate. But we'll see about that in just a few days now.
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All I know is that he's already exceeded my expectations.

In hindsight think about if we wouldn't have picked him or traded down. Salaam is out with an injury so we'd have Butler starting at LT with no real viable back ups.

If I could pick only 2 of our picks to pan out, they'd be Duane Brown and Frank Okam. If the two of them become quality starters for years to come, it's going to pay HUGE dividends for the team.
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Not resolved, but I can go back to loving Ephraim Salaam and his charm. I'm worried that Brown will get overwhelmed in Pittsburgh, but, his play so far has not left me wanting to go back to what we had last year.
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I was satisfed with his play in preseason .... As TB pointed out he had a tough time Vs. Dallas and Ware , then again who doesnt ? He has nothing but upside

as long as there are no Ron Dayne sightings I think our LT problems are in better hands than at any point in the past.
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No doubt. Pittsburgh is a great test. I have liked what I have seen and BELIEVE he is the answer. But, it's a bit of a leap of faith at this point, and I admit I could be wrong. Time will tell here pretty quick. If he survives the first 5 weeks in good shape, then I will be a very happy camper.
If the Texans survive the first 5 weeks in good shape, then I will be an even happier camper.
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resolved? No - since he hasn't played a full game yet. Do we feel more at ease since he played so well in the preseason? Sure. Consistency is what separates these guys. For example even David Carr can look good at some times...but his body of work is so inconsistent that he is useless as a starting QB in this league.
Are you suggesting that David Carr is not a good QB?
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the OL on a whole looks alot better, they play more like a unit, Pitts looks like a monster which should really help Duane in stunts & feel protection from the inside so he can focus on the edge & the speed rushers. I've noticed however some teams are just more aggressive than others, Pittsburgh being one of them who tend to send in safety blitzs & extra linebackers which reguire the RB's to pick up & I think this is the single biggest concern right now.

Duane is ahead of schedule if he continues to improve technique & read the blitz packages he will be solid enough. The Texans had to address LT in the draft & they did. which upon reflection makes that trade down so risky I'm just glad it worked out
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Would all of you say that he's ahead of where we thought Charles Spencer was going into his rookie season prior to breaking his leg?

I feel like we maybe got the right guy for the job but until they start playing real full-length games we won't know what's up. He saw a lot of vanilla in the last four weeks. Starting Sunday he's going to Baskin-Robbins. Pittsburgh is a murderous place to take a rookie LT. We'll learn a lot about Duane Brown on Sunday.
Yeah, about this time a couple of years ago, we were hearing how Spencer's nickname was "Big Nasty." Catastrophic knee injuries weren't the sort of nasty we were thinking of.

The left tackle position is jinxed until it is unjinxed. Somebody go sacrifice poultry or something. And certainly stop talking about the eft-lay ackle-tay being esolved-ray.

It makes me want to change the title of this thread but I don't think that erases jinx. Maybe we should hide under pancakes.
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Steelers are generally a very very aggressive defensive team.

I am worried for Matt Schaub. After the scripted plays are gone, and the Steelers have had a look at our formations and packages and tendencies, I think our lack of a running game is going to be our undoing.

Sure, we'll keep it moderately close for the first few possessions. But we always look good on the first possession, and then we tend to bog down after that. Of course, that could have been a Mike Sherman thing...so I guess I need to just wait and see on it.

We got hosed on our scheduling, IMO.
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Somebody go sacrifice poultry or something.

err, is that code for something???
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Impossible question to answer right now... no matter who we drafted at LT, they simply have to perform in the regular season and show progress as the year goes on. But from what we do know from preseason,etc...the odds have been moving in the right direction for sure.
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