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Old 09-03-2008   #41
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Should be interesting to see if Wilson is any good blitzing out of the slot. (assuming he signs of course). None of our corners (outside of Dunta) have shown a knack for that.
He does have pretty good sack numbers historically.
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Does he still have any game left? And if so why was he released by the Bucs?
because they have competent coaching and a well designed scheme.
they can develop their own talent and can be productive....

...while we have Richard Smith and his abortion of a defense
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because they have competent coaching and a well designed scheme.
they can develop their own talent and can be productive....

...while we have Richard Smith and his abortion of a defense
I believe that makes the 500th post where you directly reference Richard Smith and his great suck.

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If this signing does happen what will the we have no talent on the defense or we haven't put as much effort into fixing the defense as offense.

Not saying eugene if he's signed will suddenly turn the tide on defense especially our secondary. But you can no longer say Rick Smith isn't putting guys in front of Richard Smith that don't have ability or talent.

I'm starting to think we have to sign players with enough talent to overcome Richard Smith's deficiencies as a coach and coordinator.
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Very informative analysis. I'm not seeing your conclusion though.

Are you saying that he will play S and move to SLB in nickel packages; are you saying he'll play SLB for us (that can't be a possibility); or are you saying he'll play nickel CB for us?
Follow me on this one. The in the box, steve atwater type guy is dead. In the nfl, the safeties needs to be interchangeable.If they're not, teams iso the in the box guy and abuse him. That's what happens to texans when they have brown and earl in the game. Let me paint the scenerio for you. Its 2nd and 8 and cleveland goes base which is 2 backs, 2 receivers and a te. In this down and distance, they normally flex K2 out like a slot guy. in this down and distance and formation th team decided to bring in a cb. Now they have great optionss because u just removed the slb and brought in a smaller cb to play K2, but now Jamal can run against a nickel defense. What Wilson allows you to do is have a bigger stronger guy on K2, but he's also a guy that can peel off and make as stop in the run game.

If you haven't noticed and really I has been going on, teams are drafting matchup safeties early. Teams are drafting safeties with corner skills to matchup with Gates,K2,Shockey,Clark, Crupler,, Witten, and even our own Daniels. That's why you see Landry,Reed, Hough,Whitner, Allen, Merriweather, Troy P and guys like that drafted high and getting paid at a premium rate. The Y-flex Tightend is a problem for teams trying to matchup with them. Some cal it Big Nickel or 3 safety package. That's also why John Lynch and Roy Williams types are obselete now. They can't cover these type of players and really put your defense in a bind.
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I see what you're saying Lee.

I wonder if that's what the Texans were/are trying to get out of Brandon Harrison.
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I see what you're saying Lee.

I wonder if that's what the Texans were/are trying to get out of Brandon Harrison.
I think that is what they were trying to get out of Boulware at the beginning of last season.
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PFT has it as a done deal.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/...ns-the-texans/

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On a day that a running back who swipes luggage reportedly is visiting the Houston Texans, the Texans reportedly have signed a guy whom they hope will snag a different kind of leather.

According to Adam Schefter of NFL Network, the Texans have signed veteran defensive back Eugene Wilson.

Wilson began his career with the Patriots, spending five seasons in New England and winning two Super Bowls. He started 15 regular-season games as a rookie in 2003, 14 in 2004, and 16 in 2005.

He signed with the Buccaneers as a free agent, but Tampa recently cut him.

In Houston, Wilson has agreed to a one-year deal, possibly for the veteran minimum.
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brings experience, depth & versatility. see him nickle packages, special teams & FS rotation
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My only concern is this guy couldn't beat out Phillip (oops just let me get out of your way) Buchanon.

Has P Buc really turned the corner to where he can start opposite of Rhonde Barber in a deep secondary?
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Schefter is usually pretty reliable.

I'd be ecstatic if the contract was for the vet minimum.
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My only concern is this guy couldn't beat out Phillip (oops just let me get out of your way) Buchanon.

Has P Buc really turned the corner to where he can start opposite of Rhonde Barber in a deep secondary?
Apparently he has. I remember reading some articles last year on the improvement he made after going to Tampa. It even mentioned that he was not afraid to tackle...
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Excellent post, and I think you are right on. I also think the coaching staff has to be concerned about being spread out in nickel situations and then run on. This was a real problem for us in our run d this preseason. I guess you should expect Wilson to be a little more physical than a Fletcher.

Should be interesting to see if Wilson is any good blitzing out of the slot. (assuming he signs of course). None of our corners (outside of Dunta) have shown a knack for that.
none of our corners except Dunta have the speed for that......Anyway i'm not concerned with his blitz stats, we need this guy to be able to cover .....& for god's sake hope he can react & play the ball in the air better than Reeves.
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My only concern is this guy couldn't beat out Phillip (oops just let me get out of your way) Buchanon.

Has P Buc really turned the corner to where he can start opposite of Rhonde Barber in a deep secondary?
It might have more to do with the type of defensive scheme than actual talent. IMO, it takes a CB with more talent and speed to play man than a zone coverage.

Didn't the Pats use more man coverage than zone?

The other example that comes to mind (other than Pburnt) is Jason David. He played very well with the Colts (who use primarily zone), but flopped with the Saints (who run more man).

My .02 FWIW
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I think that bringing wilson is a very good move this guy has plenty of starting experience at the safety position and we need better talent in the secondary than what we have now.
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My only concern is this guy couldn't beat out Phillip (oops just let me get out of your way) Buchanon.

Has P Buc really turned the corner to where he can start opposite of Rhonde Barber in a deep secondary?
If he didn't tackle under Gruden, he's be gone by now. "Chuckie" don't tolerate wusses.
The thing about the Tampa 2 is that CBs don't have play M2M quite as often (as we have our guys doing) and you usually have help from your safeties.





[wait for iiiiit....]
hmmm, could this be another indication where our D.C. couldn't get production from a guy and yet some other coaching staff could...?
okay, okay, no more snipes @ Richard Smith


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My only concern is this guy couldn't beat out Phillip (oops just let me get out of your way) Buchanon.

Has P Buc really turned the corner to where he can start opposite of Rhonde Barber in a deep secondary?
There's been a few posts already on why Buchanon has done well in Tampa and not in Houston. The same goes for players that excel on certain teams and then flop on others. Many times you can't just plug players in here and there, you have to draft/sign those players that fit what your doing. It's the same concept with Corners as it is with Offensive Linemen. You might have an ALL-Pro probowl Left Tackle in his prime on a team that uses, say a power blocking type of style but he would completely flop here in Houston with a cutblocking ZBS.
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When Donta comes back where do you all think they'll play Wilson?
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When Donta comes back where do you all think they'll play Wilson?
It could mean he will playing in the street.
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Let us not also forget that this guy comes from a team/secondary that did pretty well against Peyton Manning in the past.
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