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Old 08-29-2008   #21
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Honest question (not trying to be an ass), what have we seen in the past 2 seasons would give you the impression "we'll get it going during the season"?
With our defense we basically gutted the interior and started from scratch.

Young guys are the captains over there. Demeco, Mario, Amobi, Freddie B. ...lots of new guys, second yr. players...and scrubs....

On offense we have more established talent...Chester Pitts, Matt Schaub, Andre Johnson, Meyers....Guys that have started with us or have been in the leauge for a while now...

Towards the end of the season last year the defense started playing better together...I don't think we are going to be shutting anyone down, but over the course of the season we may be able to do just enough on defense to where our offense can win us some games...

Lots of young guys playing big roles over there....Lots of untalented Vets taking up cap space too...Maybe as the season progresses, other guys get chances and emerge....Crazier things have happened, so I mean there is a little room for optimism....right ?
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The excuse of Mario being double and triple teamed both alleviates and exacerbates my worry.

1. If Mario is being double and triple teamed, no wonder he isn't reeking havoc!

2. If Mario is being double or triple teamed, that leaves, what, 2 or 3 OL to block the rest of our pass rush? And they only managed 2 sacks the entire preseason? YIKES!
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I've been an NFL fan since around 1971 and I know one thing if I know nothing...the NFL is a sprint and each game means more than they do in baseball or basketball or any other sport that has more than 8 home games. In baseball you can 'get it together' during the marathon season but in football there are no games to waste getting into your season stride...once the first game whistle blows it's a mad dash.
I dont disagree with anything, makes sense. All Im saying is that I personally think they will show up in the regular season. But even if they dont, Im not gunna get upset about anything untill I see it in a regular season game, thats all.....
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Sometimes double teams have nothing to do with personnel and everything to do with assignment...
Assignment or not, double teams are not directed toward the weak retarded nonthreatening figure.
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Assignment or not, double teams are not directed toward the weak retarded nonthreatening figure.
When you find one of those on an NFL football field let me know.
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When you find one of those on an NFL football field let me know.
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I've been an NFL fan since around 1971 and I know one thing if I know nothing...the NFL is a sprint and each game means more than they do in baseball or basketball or any other sport that has more than 8 home games. In baseball you can 'get it together' during the marathon season but in football there are no games to waste getting into your season stride...once the first game whistle blows it's a mad dash.

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I dont disagree with anything, makes sense. All Im saying is that I personally think they will show up in the regular season. But even if they dont, Im not gunna get upset about anything untill I see it in a regular season game, thats all.....
The problem with that is, right out of the gate their first five, we're facing teams will be chasing play off tie breakers on. I have this horrid vision of Big Ben sitting in the pocket.... for four or five seconds until their little smurfs run their crossing patterns....leaving our athletically challenged DBs chasing back pockets. Time ?...they have a week from Sunday, if we're talking 10-6 and a playoff hunt.
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I dont disagree with anything, makes sense. All Im saying is that I personally think they will show up in the regular season. But even if they dont, Im not gunna get upset about anything untill I see it in a regular season game, thats all.....
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The problem with that is, right out of the gate their first five, we're facing teams will be chasing play off tie breakers on. I have this horrid vision of Big Ben sitting in the pocket.... for four or five seconds until their little smurfs run their crossing patterns....leaving our athletically challenged DBs chasing back pockets. Time ?...they have a week from Sunday, if we're talking 10-6 and a playoff hunt.
Ill wait to see what happens, what theyve done in pre season is nothing to take stock in.....
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Reuters also reports that water is wet and that the search team looking for the Texans alleged running game led by Ahman Green, is officially missing in action as well.
They also just reported that Vince Young doesn't know how to pass.
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The excuse of Mario being double and triple teamed both alleviates and exacerbates my worry.

1. If Mario is being double and triple teamed, no wonder he isn't reeking havoc!

2. If Mario is being double or triple teamed, that leaves, what, 2 or 3 OL to block the rest of our pass rush? And they only managed 2 sacks the entire preseason? YIKES!
Well you have to factor in the non-factors, which are TJ and Weaver. TJ can be block straight up and Weaver... well you can let the RB/FB take him on, but it's not like you need someone blocking him to take him out of the play. They are no threat from a pass-rushing standpoint, so that only leaves Amobi who could also be double-team.

I'm just hoping we can hit a jackpot and pick up a pass-rushing DE through the wavier if a deep team cuts one.
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The problem with that is, right out of the gate their first five, we're facing teams will be chasing play off tie breakers on. I have this horrid vision of Big Ben sitting in the pocket.... for four or five seconds until their little smurfs run their crossing patterns....leaving our athletically challenged DBs chasing back pockets. Time ?...they have a week from Sunday, if we're talking 10-6 and a playoff hunt.
Maybe Gustav can get to Heinz field and make it a swamp .
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I think Colvin will be fine.
He's a pro. When the regular season comes, he will turn it on.
At least, I hope so!
Who's he play for again ? ...
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I dont disagree with anything, makes sense. All Im saying is that I personally think they will show up in the regular season. But even if they dont, Im not gunna get upset about anything untill I see it in a regular season game, thats all.....
agreed...but most of us aren't upset. We are just discussing what we see.

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indeed. Poor starts or poor stretches can be overcome. Looking at our schedule I can see us still having an outside shot at the playoffs even if we lose 3 of our first 4. I was just trying to emphasize that football is more of a sprint than a marathon like baseball and basketball.
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