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Old 08-28-2008   #41
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It is great that he realized that he A. was not worth the $$ he was getting B. was going to be cut. Hopefully this will give him back the FIRE to go out and play (unless he plays only hard enough to not get hurt) Sadly, I think this also means that Walker will be let go and our RB corps will be Green, Slaton, and Taylor.
I thought kubes made reference to possibly keeping 4 backs which means that Walker could still be in the mix. as for green restructuring, i think that this makes brown the odd man out.
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I don't see at this point how you don't keep Darius Walker...

Even if you go with Green and Brown there's no guarantee that either will make it through the first game...
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I don't see at this point how you don't keep Darius Walker...

Even if you go with Green and Brown there's no guarantee that either will make it through the first game...
If we keep Brown and Green, I doubt we keep Walker. Don't forget about Taylor and Slaton.
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If we keep Brown and Green, I doubt we keep Walker. Don't forget about Taylor and Slaton.
Brown isn't even guaranteed to make it to the game much less get through it...

Green hasn't shown he can make it through a series...

It's possible that one or both could be gone in the blink of an eye....

That'd only leave you with two backs in a hearbeat...

I think Walker makes this team regardless....
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I don't see Walker making the team if we keep Brown and Green.
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Agree in general with Vinny, but if they don't think Brown can stay healthy they could jettison him and keep Walker as RB #4, with Green, Slaton and Taylor being the swingman jack of all trades.
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If brown stays walker is out... which i think it'd be a mistake to keep brown & let walker go but i just think at some point kubes has to give him a fair chance to make this team. He's done nothing but what they ask.
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I don't think this is exactly right (at least as far as this year's cap). I think the bonuses are classified as incentives, which can either be "not likely to be earned" or "likely to be earned". I believe that deciding which category it will be is done by comparing to the previous year. Since Green was inactive so much of last year, I think these would be all or mostly "not likely to be earned."

My understanding of the salary cap is that only the likely to be earned incentives would count against this year's cap (if earned). The NLTBE incentives, if earned, would count instead against next year's cap. So, I think even if Green earns the incentives, the cap hit would be mainly next year.
In essence, I think you're right. According to the NFL CBA, roster bonuses are considered unlikely to be earned. So the cap hit could be moved to 2009.

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Since we probably aren't going to carry the 6th reciever + Taylor is also a FB, I can see us carrying four backs...

I think, regardless, Walker is going to make the team..

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It is great that he realized that he A. was not worth the $$ he was getting B. was going to be cut. Hopefully this will give him back the FIRE to go out and play (unless he plays only hard enough to not get hurt) Sadly, I think this also means that Walker will be let go and our RB corps will be Green, Slaton, and Taylor.
Nah, we have Taylor as the emegrency FB, we could keep 4.
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It makes me wounder if the Texans restructed his contract to cut someone like a Weaver and they can accelerate the cap hit for this year, instead of partial this year and the rest next year.
That's my thought. Plus sometimes u restructure to get cut. The salaries aren't guaranteed, but with the 200k per game, its win-win. Weaver might be a goner.
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If brown stays walker is out... which i think it'd be a mistake to keep brown & let walker go but i just think at some point kubes has to give him a fair chance to make this team. He's done nothing but what they ask.
Walker's still elligible for the practice squad.
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This was a great move on both sides of the fence. Green guarantees a roster spot, otherwise he probably wouldn't get picked up by any other team. For the team, I think it looks like we can still cut him fairly easily after this season if needed and it won't be any big loss. If Green stays healthy and plays all the games... we can keep him for the next season or two and he'll get paid as planned. If he's injured, we don't have to pay him this season and can cut him in the offseason without any big loss.
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This was a great move on both sides of the fence. Green guarantees a roster spot, otherwise he probably wouldn't get picked up by any other team. For the team, I think it looks like we can still cut him fairly easily after this season if needed and it won't be any big loss. If Green stays healthy and plays all the games... we can keep him for the next season or two and he'll get paid as planned. If he's injured, we don't have to pay him this season and can cut him in the offseason without any big loss.
Hopefully we have a RB or two other than Green that can prove reliable and produce on the field this season. That way we'd cut Green after this season. Or just keep him for cheap as a veteran presence.

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Walker's still elligible for the practice squad.
Yes, but there's a chance he won't clear waivers.
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Good move for both sides, feel a little better about that situation.

But does "..Green can make three million if he stay's healthy for every game" reflect healthy for just the first play, or healthy the entire game?

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In essence, I think you're right. According to the NFL CBA, roster bonuses are considered unlikely to be earned. So the cap hit could be moved to 2009.

Roster bonuses are indentified in Exhibit B as an unlikely to be earned incentive.
I need to refresh on that. I was thinking roster bonus was assignable to the current year when earned. I've gotten rusty on some of the fine print.
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Still think his #1 goal is to sneak paychecks and ride the pine for fear of being in contact?
It was restructure or be cut. People can draw whatever conclusion they want from that. I'm sure he would have preferred $3.8 guaranteed but $1.8 is better than nothing I guess. We'll see what kind of fire and passion he brings into Week 1.

I'm glad the Texans forced the issue. If he can play, great. If he can't, less loss.
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I was just about to post this. So what are we going to do with that $2 million?
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Someone please explain this complete fascination everyone has with Taylor. He did nothing during the chances he got, Slaton ran behind the same players as he did and made the most out of it. Walker got almost no playing time after the first game, which baffles me completely.
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