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Old 08-25-2008   #21
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I would rather have less "talented" players that can get the job done than being better on paper but not make the playoffs. You can call the Giants schedule weak but they still won. The beat the cowgirls when it matters and beat an undefeated team in the Super Bowl.
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Old 08-25-2008   #22
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can't see taking a step back after last seasons 8-8. even if its the same or one win more (9-7)
Unfortunately its VERY possibly we win less games than last year while taking a step forward overall as a football team. Our schedule is simply BRUTAL. We play the toughest 2 divisions in football most of the year and we are stilll a young and growing team. Only winning 7 games is very possible.... and I am definitely preparing myself for that.
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What I want to know. Is where can I go to put money down on those odds. I was in Vegas last week. None of the sports sites had this.

Here's a link with the odds....sportsbook

http://vegaswatch.net/2008/05/2008-n...verunders.html

also....Bodog has the over/under at 7.5 but you have to lay a little more if you bet over.....
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you know...the more I think about it...it just seems we have too much talent to not win 8 games...that's what makes that line so weird...i would think it would be 8.5.....I guarantee you that the Sportsbooks have more people betting the Texans go over the 7.5....and they do not seem to be scared of that....oh well, hope they are wrong. I would like nothing more than to see us have a breakout year.....
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Over, 9-7 and make the playoffs, IMO the whole league looks more competitive this year.....we'll see.
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Default Re: 7.5 over/under wins for Texans...

Who knows, however, looking at our schedule, I think we are right now clearly better than every team on it with the exceptions of:

Indianapolis,
Jacksonville,
Minnesota,
Pittsburgh


Of course, that doesn't mean we will win all those other games or that we will be better than those teams by the time we play them, but it is encouraging.

So, I'll say OVER!
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you know...the more I think about it...it just seems we have too much talent to not win 8 games...that's what makes that line so weird...i would think it would be 8.5.....I guarantee you that the Sportsbooks have more people betting the Texans go over the 7.5....and they do not seem to be scared of that....oh well, hope they are wrong. I would like nothing more than to see us have a breakout year.....
If too many people are betting the over the line will move to 8, then 8.5 and so on. Apparently the sportsbooks are good with 7.5 because not enough people are betting the over to make it worthwhile to move the line.
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I guarantee you that the Sportsbooks have more people betting the Texans go over the 7.5
There are a whole lot of people that consider the Texans to be a horrible team. That is why it is set at under .500. Of course, as Texans fans, we believe that we have 10 win potential so 7.5 looks easily attainable
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Default Re: 7.5 over/under wins for Texans...

I wonder what the over and under was on the Giants winning the Super Bowl.
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I wonder what the over and under was on the Giants winning the Super Bowl.
Are you asking the Giants over/under in wins or the odds to win the Super Bowl?
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I just found that they were 30 to 1. This year we are 60 to 1.
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Default Re: 7.5 over/under wins for Texans...

I believe we will go OVER, probably 9 wins have our first winning season, but miss the playoffs; unless we go 11 wins and win the Division.

The Texans looked pretty good vs Denver and N.O. and not so good against Dallas. Denver plays in arguably the weakest division in the AFC as does N.O. The Saints are being picked by many to have a bounce back year.

Dallas, believe it or not is a really good team and will be one of the top teams in the NFC again this year. The good news is we were able to move the ball down the field on their D. Shaub ended up with about the same yards as Romo and a TD.
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#8 had the same amount of yards as Romo but stayed in the game longer. Dallas is one of the best teams in the NFC but we face some of the top teams in the AFC. If our D continues to allow teams to mop the floor with them it may not be a pretty season. I try to not put much stock in preseason, other than rating backups.
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I think 7.5 might be a close over/under. The Texans are starting out the season with key injuries, and they have a few glaring weaknesses. It remains to be seen if their strengths can overcome those two items. As they say, that's why they play the games.
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I've been saying all along we could be an improved team this year and still go 8-8. I'm hoping for 9 or 10 wins though.
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....I guarantee you that the Sportsbooks have more people betting the Texans go over the 7.5....
From what I've seen, you're correct. Caribsports has the Texans over 7.5 wins @-125. The Texans are under 7.5 wins @-105. It's cheaper to bet the under, which means the sportsbook is trying to attract betters to the under in order to balance the bets. Some of the other futures that fans are betting heavy:

Seahawks over 8.5 (-195)
Saints over 8.5 (-190)
Eagles over 8.5 (-170)
Panthers over 7.5 (-170)
Colts under 11 (-160)
Titans under 8 (-130)
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There are a whole lot of people that consider the Texans to be a horrible team. That is why it is set at under .500. Of course, as Texans fans, we believe that we have 10 win potential so 7.5 looks easily attainable
ya, My interaction with most fans who dont pay attention has been mostly me scratching my head at their explanation of why the Texans suck. Most NFL fans arnt that educated, Id say that the sportsbook is having a big laugh watching all these know nothings bet on the Texans going under....

Im basically saying that I understand why thats the line, I have rarely run into a fan that knew we went .500 last year, and in the toughest division...
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Most NFL fans arnt that educated, Id say that the sportsbook is having a big laugh watching all these know nothings bet on the Texans going under....
I'm bit of a philomath and I can see 7.5 being reasonable. It's not easy to win in this league and the Texans have some issues.
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There are a whole lot of people that consider the Texans to be a horrible team. That is why it is set at under .500. Of course, as Texans fans, we believe that we have 10 win potential so 7.5 looks easily attainable
Well there is rampant speculation this week about just how bad Derick Anderson's concussion is. Speculation is, it's worse than they are letting on. With Anderson we'd have to be very fortunate to catch enough breaks to beat the Brownies. Without Anderson...with the rookie Quinn, if we can find someone who'll get there, we've got a better than fifty fifty shot at beating them. The point being this thing hasn't even started yet and we don't know who'll be playing and who won't from week to week. We aren't as bad as the Cowboys game...and we aren't as good as the Saints game. The Saints were flat and we were hungrier. And we won't be facing a Jason David loose canon every week for a third down crutch. Believe anything believe that.

The bottom line for this team is how soon will the young guys take to get on line. I'm not talking about Molden here. I'm talking about the two new guys on the special teams replacing Charlie Anderson & Von Hutchins....the New Sam Backer....the new right guard & the new right corner.

Those guys will have to learn on the run and grow up fast to catch 3-2 or better the first five games. I think with the breaks and we don't loose the two book end offensive tackles the first five games they have a fair shot at 10-6. But that means we do something we haven't ever done before....beat division rivals on the road in back to back games. Means they have to be perfect in every way in those games and catch a couple of breaks. I do not think this is very likely....the Atlanta game last year still haunts me. But it is possible. If they are 2-0 by some miracle out of the gate, we'll see if they spit the bit once again in the third game. Doesn't make them a bad team , just means they are young. I think 7.5 on paper is just about right. I also think a lot of folks are under estimating the value of the rushing attacks we face the last eight games. To hit 10-6, IMHO, they have to be 6-2 or five and three after the bye week. Possible, not likely. I think they split the last eight with the two back to back division wins in their pockets, they'll make the playoffs. Means we've knocked off at least three of five rivals at least once for the final play off spot.

Conversely....they dog up those two early division road games...we're at 4-4, 3-5 or 2-6 after the bye week, we're not going to run six of eight games and sneak in. You can be as gung-ho as you want, that ain't happening.
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