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Old 08-25-2008   #41
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Default Re: Steve Slaton.. What are you expecting??

Who became the RB judge and says a 200 pound man cannot do what a 240 pound man can do.

If you saw the way Steve followed the zone in his blocking scheme it was awesome to watch. If he can hit the holes in our scheme then I would believe the job is his.
We have always had a back that is too slow or cannot hit the hole correctly.

I for one am excited about having an offense that works 80% of the time as opposed to not working at all. That being said I see 1200 yards and 15 touchdowns looking real good to me right now.
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Word is from both the Chron and local TV news last night that Slaton is
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Word is from both the Chron and local TV news last night that Slaton is
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of injury can become a serious problem ?
Isn't that why Dayne got cut and ended up with us?
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didn't Mario have turf toe his rookie season?
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Who became the RB judge and says a 200 pound man cannot do what a 240 pound man can do.

If you saw the way Steve followed the zone in his blocking scheme it was awesome to watch. If he can hit the holes in our scheme then I would believe the job is his.
We have always had a back that is too slow or cannot hit the hole correctly.

I for one am excited about having an offense that works 80% of the time as opposed to not working at all. That being said I see 1200 yards and 15 touchdowns looking real good to me right now.
When the vast majority of those 240lb men end there career after just three years, you have to be concerned for the safety of smaller guys. At least I am.

That said, despite what the numbers say, I've never seen him look as small as Warrick Dunn, or Dante Hall. I'd like to get another reading on his height & weight.
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Mario Williams had Lis Franc, not turf toe. But turf toe is a serious condition as well.

As for Slaton, I think playing in the ZBS in college really helped him out. He knows how to hit the holes better than any other RB on our team. When I think theres nothing to be gained, Taylor and Walker pick up 1 or 2, and Slaton gets 4 or 6.

If he could play in 75% of our games, get at least 15 carries per game, and average at least 4 ypc, I'd be happy. That'd put him at 12 games played, 15 carries each game, 60 yards per game (720 total). He's a rookie, so Im not ready to run him into the ground
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For him to make the team. We've got 2 Puh C's in front of him. Unless both of them go down (again!), Slaton will not get many carries a game.

Between our shitty defense and a couple panzy-asses (Brown & Green) for RB's, my optimism is at a low level at this time. It's a wait and see approach for me.

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Mario Williams had Lis Franc, not turf toe. But turf toe is a serious condition as well.
Mario had plantar faciitis. Glenn Earl had Lis Franc.

Also Mario did not have turf toe, but did have his toenails removed. [/ouch]

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Default Re: Steve Slaton.. What are you expecting??

Remember Gary Walker, former DE in our 3-4 when Capers was here ?
I'm thinking turf toe screwed him up pretty bad one year ? I think he battled
it on and off that whole year.
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Word is from both the Chron and local TV news last night that Slaton is
experiencing problems with "turf toe". I dunno, but I'm thinking this type
of injury can become a serious problem ?

I hope it's minor. Turf toe can hamper a player so I'm concerned with this injury. It usually takes about 3 weeks to heal, if you stay off of it.

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I hope it's minor. Turf toe can hamper a player so I'm concerned with this injury. It usually takes about 3 weeks to heal, if you stay off of it.

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does not bode well for his rookie campaign, he should miss at least the first two games to rest his turf toe-depending on severity. then I would expect him to gain limited action in those 3rd down conversion situations & see how it holds up. so if the Texans are lucky, coming off the bye week he is 100%.

first 7 weeks (Steelers, Ravens, Titans, Jags, Colts, Fish, Lions) under 200.

last 9 weeks (Vikings, Bengals, Colts, Browns, Jags, Packers, Titans, Raiders, Bears) over 700.

1000 yds, is in the realm of possibility depending how Steve's turf toe reponds
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I like what Slaton did, but I also like what Taylor did. They ended up about even, and Slaton broke a 20 yarder. I'd give the edge to Slaton right now, but Taylor's not far behind.

It's also nice to see the blocking shaping up.
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Mario Williams had Lis Franc, not turf toe. But turf toe is a serious condition as well.
Mario had a bad toe and plantar fasciitis his first season. Glenn Earl had Lis Franc last year.
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How do you get and what exactly is Turf Toe,

Sounds like a made up injury, they never had that when I was younger
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How do you get and what exactly is Turf Toe,

Sounds like a made up injury, they never had that when I was younger
IIRC, it's like tendonitis of the toe. Kinda like the name "tennis elbow".

Very painful, but a good'ole shot of cortisone should fix'em up come game time.
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How do you get and what exactly is Turf Toe,

Sounds like a made up injury, they never had that when I was younger

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Turf toe can occur after a very vigorous upward bending of the big toe. It got it's name due to the fact that it occurs frequently in people who play games on artificial surfaces. The shoe grips hard on the surface and sticks causing bodyweight to go forward and so bending the toe up. It is also common in martial arts. You are more at risk if you have increased range of motion in the ankle and / or wear soft flexible shoes.


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When the toe is bent upwards this causes damage to the ligaments which can become stretched. In addition the surfaces of the bones at the joint can become damaged. You should really have an X-ray to check if a bone has not been broken.

Recovery of this injury can take three to four weeks depending on how bad the sprain is.
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How do you get and what exactly is Turf Toe,

Sounds like a made up injury, they never had that when I was younger
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"Turf toe is really a bruise that occurs at the base of the big toe at the joint called the metatarsal phalangeal joint. It usually occurs when the toe is jammed forcibly into the ground or, more commonly, when the toe is bent backward too far and it goes beyond where it should go. It causes significant pain and swelling at the base of the big toe. It can be a significant problem because players use the toe when they run and plant and push off. It can be so painful that they can't play at all."
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How do you get and what exactly is Turf Toe,

Sounds like a made up injury, they never had that when I was younger
www.fakemedicalinjurydefinitions.com

"Turf toe occurs when a player with a large contract decides he no longer wants to risk injuring his body by playing a sport. The condition was first identified in the year guaranteed money contracts entered the NFL, and has become more and more prominent every season. Players usually presents with a green big toe, with or without artificial grass attached to it. This is usually created with green sharpie and glue. The condition generally lingers throughout their career, and becomes especially painful immediately proceeding games against defenses with a reputation for being "tough" or immediately after signing new contracts."



Seriously though, I think it comes from hyperflexion of the big toe joint. It can be pretty painful, and it comes from wearing shoes that provide greater mobility at a higher risk.
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eh, I don't think it's very serious at all......I think he has a minor turf toe injury and the coaches are just now going to be cautious with him and let him rest the last preseason game....seeing how he has been the lone bright spot in the backfield so far this preseason.

I think they've already seen what they needed to see from Slaton and without a healthy Green or Brown (both who happen to be different colors of sh*t) I don't think they want to risk losing Slaton by further aggravating a minor injury. Missing the next preseason game will give Slaton almost 2 1/2 weeks to heal before the season opener.
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