Funny excuse from VY fanboy

[hobie]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Wish I could quit you... "You must spread.... yada yada yada"

Hmm, you must spread, yet you wish you could quit....I just don't understand some of you guys !!

[Wolf]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Wish I could rep. you... "You must spread.... yada yada yada"

same here

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by hobie

Hmm, you must spread, yet you wish you could quit....I just don't understand some of you guys !!

Hobie..... You're projecting again. You should just admit what we all know to be true anyway...

[hobie]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Hobie..... You're projecting again. You should just admit what we all know to be true anyway...

Ok,Ok, I admit, I DO understand you guys, and that even though you enjoy an occasional sausage, I am ok with that and am your friend regardless...He that let a sausage come between 2 friends is someone who does not value friendship !!

[RTP2110]

I thought the deal with the Titans WR core was that they didn't want prototype guys. I don't remember when and where, but I read that TEN wanted to surround VY with WRs just as unorthodox as he is. The thinking being that if you have a WR running precise routes and being open at the right time, VY isn't going to get the ball to him anyway. TEN wants WRs who can break off their route and scramble around to get open. Street football if you will. They know VY isn't going to drop back 7 steps, step up, find the open guy, and deliver an on time, accurate pass. That's not his game. There is a reason TEN hasn't gone after top flight WRs. People waiting for VY to get help at WR, don't hold your breath.

[Señor Stan]

Originally Posted by RTP2110

I thought the deal with the Titans WR core was that they didn't want prototype guys. I don't remember when and where, but I read that TEN wanted to surround VY with WRs just as unorthodox as he is. The thinking being that if you have a WR running precise routes and being open at the right time, VY isn't going to get the ball to him anyway. TEN wants WRs who can break off their route and scramble around to get open. Street football if you will. They know VY isn't going to drop back 7 steps, step up, find the open guy, and deliver an on time, accurate pass. That's not his game. There is a reason TEN hasn't gone after top flight WRs. People waiting for VY to get help at WR, don't hold your breath.

Instead of Xs and Os the Titans playbook now contains bottle caps and sticks and is drawn in the dirt. Also terms like "fly" and "post" and "drag" have been replaced with "run towards the yellow Impala."

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by hobie

Ok,Ok, I admit, I DO understand you guys, and that even though you enjoy an occasional sausage, I am ok with that and am your friend regardless...He that let a sausage come between 2 friends is someone who does not value friendship !!

*Hobie exits and heads towards Montrose for some *

[Ole Miss Texan]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

The play of that game was a play not made........ by Dunta on Williams.

I actually remember that big play now and you're right it was against Dunta. I thought he had fairly good coverage and it was just a great throw and great catch.

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Maybe it could be that they don't want to spend money on receivers when they're not sure or know that their QB can't get the ball to them. What would probably help them and vincent though - is getting a tall athletic guy who can catch those jump balls like Sweed did for Young at Texas...

I think that's a great thought. It could easily go both ways there. I was surprised (as is everyone) that they didn't get that tall athletic WR, but I'm starting to understand... they want to run the ball more than ever.

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

For those that missed the point of my post it is this...

The receivers that Collins had were the same receivers that VY had. Collins was able to move the ball in the air and VY was not.. Period.

That's the thing though is that VY has had several great games with similar stats. Hell he threw for 300 yds against Denver last year and like 250 yds against us all with the same receivers.

Bottom line if VY/KC had better receivers.. their stats would go up. Likewise, if those receivers had better QB's... their stats would probably go up too

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Wish I could rep. you... "You must spread.... yada yada yada"

That was funny as hell... perfect analogy. Rep'd him.

[Wolf]

Originally Posted by Señor Stan

Instead of Xs and Os the Titans playbook now contains bottle caps and sticks and is drawn in the dirt. Also terms like "fly" and "post" and "drag" have been replaced with "run towards the yellow Impala."

no pun intended right LOL

[Double Barrel]

Originally Posted by Ole Miss Texan

I'm not trying to make excuses for him whatsoever. But I'd love to hear you argue that the Titans wideouts are good. Where would you rank them relative to the other nfl teams? I think we can all agree they COULD use an upgrade.

I agree that they could use an upgrade at WR (that goes for a lot of teams, though), but, I can't blame VY being mediocre QB because of them. The receivers still need someone who can consistently get the ball to them.

Stats only tell part of the story, but we can use them to illustrate certain points.

Take the top three reception players with the Titans in 2007:

Justin Gage - 55 for 750
Roydell Williams - 55 for 719
Bo Scaife - 46 for 421

That's 156 catches for 1,890 yards.

Then look at the top three reception players with another AFC South playoff team in 2007:

Jaguars (won 1 playoff game)
Ernest Wilford - 45 for 518
Dennis Northcutt - 44 for 601
Maurice Jones-Drew - 40 for 407

Total = 129 catches for 1,526 yards

The Jags had less catches and less yards, yet they still won a playoff game. These teams split their series last season, as well.

Is David Garrard a better or worse QB than VY? He seems to have weaker WRs, but he still makes the best of it. Both teams have solid running games and good defenses. But honestly, I don't hear that Garrard is a mediocre QB because of his WRs. He's actually considered a good up-and-coming QB who has a lot of potential.

JMO

[Ole Miss Texan]

Interesting analysis. It's interesting how similar the Titans and Jags are. Both running teams with good defenses. Colts obviously are a passing team and it seems the Texans are really going to be a passing team too.

I guess it goes with the theory that teams often draft or try and build a superunit. Instead of being decent all around, build up a unit to be really good (ie what we're trying to do on the DL, the Titans with their RB's, Saints had a great passing game in '06 yet still drafted a WR in the 1st rd, etc.) Build a big strength to your team instead of have decent players at a lot of different positions.

[Dekka]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

...The receivers that Collins had were the same receivers that VY had. Collins was able to move the ball in the air and VY was not.. Period.

What kind of point is that? I doubt the brass over on the rednecks' favorite team is giving two sh*ts about Collins vs. Young and weighing how either performed against us. It's a non-point. Vince could have come out, dropped his drawers and taken a crap on the 50-yard line and Collins could've thrown for 600 yards with 11 TDs and it still wouldn't matter. How anyone performs against us isn't going to dictate a darn thing on any given Sunday.

Since Collins came over to the Titans I believe Young has a higher completion average and better overall numbers. I could be wrong, but either way, Collins is a non-issue.

Martin, now, that's a different story. The fans over there know the least about him - which makes him a hot Monday morning quarterback commodity.

[Specnatz]

Originally Posted by Dekka

What kind of point is that? I doubt the brass over on the rednecks' favorite team is giving two sh*ts about Collins vs. Young and weighing how either performed against us. It's a non-point. Vince could have come out, dropped his drawers and taken a crap on the 50-yard line and Collins could've thrown for 600 yards with 11 TDs and it still wouldn't matter. How anyone performs against us isn't going to dictate a darn thing on any given Sunday.

Since Collins came over to the Titans I believe Young has a higher completion average and better overall numbers. I could be wrong, but either way, Collins is a non-issue.

Martin, now, that's a different story. The fans over there know the least about him - which makes him a hot Monday morning quarterback commodity.

Slow down Jr and lets explain it to you real simple like. vy apologist blame everyone (including the WR) around him for his poor performance last year. So saying Collins did real well given the oppertunity with the same WR he performed better than sausage boy. It really is, just that simple.

[b0ng]

I bet when we revisit this conversation in about a year or two it will be absolutely hilarious.

[Dekka]

Originally Posted by Specnatz

So saying Collins did real well given the oppertunity with the same WR he performed better than sausage boy. It really is, just that simple.

How do Collins's numbers compare to Young's over the course of last season? It really is just that simple.

[Specnatz]

Originally Posted by Dekka

How do Collins's numbers compare to Young's over the course of last season? It really is just that simple.

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