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Old 08-20-2008   #101
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He wasn't offered anything, by any body..... the Falcons placed the tender on him.
The year before, there were reports that two teams made full 1st and 3rd offers for Schaub even before he became an RFA. There was also another team in the mix when the Texans acquired Schaub but I do not recall any reports of what their offer was.
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The year before, there were reports that two teams made full 1st and 3rd offers for Schaub even before he became an RFA. There was also another team in the mix when the Texans acquired Schaub but I do not recall any reports of what their offer was.
I remember that as well, but once Schaub was available, he sat for like two weeks(right??) before anyone made any offer....

And then the year before, the talking heads were talking like he was the best thing since sliced bread, any team should go after him, He was actually a better prospect than Vince Young, Matt Lienart, & Jay Cutler..... yada, yada, yada.

Then as soon as we go get him, "WTF were they thinking??"

But that's a different story.
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I remember that as well, but once Schaub was available, he sat for like two weeks(right??) before anyone made any offer....

And then the year before, the talking heads were talking like he was the best thing since sliced bread, any team should go after him, He was actually a better prospect than Vince Young, Matt Lienart, & Jay Cutler..... yada, yada, yada.

Then as soon as we go get him, "WTF were they thinking??"

But that's a different story.
Value is subjective. I think Kubiak and Smith are thrilled with the price. I know I am... As far as I'm concerned, those are the three people that matter most.
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The year before, there were reports that two teams made full 1st and 3rd offers for Schaub even before he became an RFA. There was also another team in the mix when the Texans acquired Schaub but I do not recall any reports of what their offer was.
I think it was the Raiders before they were set on drafting Russell but I could be mistaken. I don't remember if any of the offers were reported.
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It's me-I know, I'm missing something. Matt completed 88.9% of his passes against NO-- missing 2 and 1 was dropped. His YPA was 10, his YPC even more....but some are complaining about his ball placement.

Did I mention he threw 2 tds and 0 interceptions and was not sacked and had good YAC, and- ----- had a qb rating over 150!!!!!!!!!!!

.....but, he had 'BAD' ball placement????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...geeeeezzzzzz zzzzzzz
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Who would've guessed this thread would turn into another Schaub vs Sage debate??

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It's me-I know, I'm missing something. Matt completed 88.9% of his passes against NO-- missing 2 and 1 was dropped. His YPA was 10, his YPC even more....but some are complaining about his ball placement.

Did I mention he threw 2 tds and 0 interceptions and was not sacked and had good YAC, and- ----- had a qb rating over 150!!!!!!!!!!!

.....but, he had 'BAD' ball placement????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...geeeeezzzzzz zzzzzzz
One was dropped. The other incompletion was intentional: we had called a screen, but the linebacker was all over the RB. With three linemen bearing down on him, Matt threw it at the covered RB's feet to avoid the grounding call. There was no other way to salvage that play.

On one of the completions, Matt did underthrow Davis a little (I believe he was getting heat up the middle), but Andre made a nice adjustment for the reception. Everything else was right on target.
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Schaub was very impressive against the Saints we should all agree. What I dont understand is the need to belittle Sage in order to cement Matt's place as the starter. Sage has proven so many times that he can help this team win when given the chance. Even if Matt is the better option to start, bottom line is that the Texans have two competent quarterbacks both capable of starting and winning games.
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Last year, there was not one catch, not one throw that matches your description, and in the last two preseason games, he's thrown nothing but hitches & crossing patterns.

Not once hitting anyone in stride. I'll go back and watch the game again, I could be wrong. But the things you mention, are the things I'm looking for, and I'm not seeing.


That first sentence tells me you didn't watch very many games last year. And that out route to Davis, uh yeah the pocket was collapsing pretty fast on that one and he almost had to throw it off his back foot. And what about the TD pass to Walter, or the crossing patter to Walter (that was the very definition of hitting someone in stride).

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Schaub was very impressive against the Saints we should all agree. What I dont understand is the need to belittle Sage in order to cement Matt's place as the starter. Sage has proven so many times that he can help this team win when given the chance. Even if Matt is the better option to start, bottom line is that the Texans have two competent quarterbacks both capable of starting and winning games.
It's the nature of a QB controversy (or any argument). The "start Sage" crowd is certainly not reticent about dissecting any shortcoming that Schaub may show. If Matt's issues are fair game, then so are Sage's. Of course, every aspect of every Texan's play is fair game on a Texan message board.

As the driver of the Schaub bandwagon, my position on Sage is this: he is one of the better backup QBs in the league--he's an ideal fit for our #2. But he is not as good as our starter. Nonetheless, until our starter proves he can get through the season, we will need a quality backup like Sage who is ready to go.

Nobody here dislikes Sage. Even those who suggest trading him see it more in terms of what we'd gain in draft picks.
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He hasn't done anything in the last two preseason games, that trumps that highlight clip.

Meh throwing for 187 and 2TDs in only a quarter and a half. He must be doing something right. lol
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dunno what happened. But I'll have to fix and reply later thunder
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Texan Mike I didn't take your comment as an attack...several other people were in my face at the same time you were. Besides I never take stuff in here personally.
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It's me-I know, I'm missing something. Matt completed 88.9% of his passes against NO-- missing 2 and 1 was dropped. His YPA was 10, his YPC even more....but some are complaining about his ball placement.

Did I mention he threw 2 tds and 0 interceptions and was not sacked and had good YAC, and- ----- had a qb rating over 150!!!!!!!!!!!

.....but, he had 'BAD' ball placement????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...geeeeezzzzzz zzzzzzz
I've seen this ball placement argument and its a nonsense argument. The Texans passing offense is as good as anyone's right now. If Schaub was not accurate the team wouldn't be so efficient passing.

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Schaub is getting accolades for his performance against the Girls.......but I would have to say that it certainly wasn't consistent. There were times that he seemed rattled. As soon as the rush came in quickly and there was a defender within 3 feet, it appeared that he found the need to get rid of the ball. On the other hand, I would challenge anyone to review the game and not see that Sage, not atypically was surrounded with defenders (sometimes he seemed to disappear within the myriad of defenders), remained calm, took one step out the pocket and found his target. Also, I don't buy the fact that Sage is not a mobile QB. He is the wiley QB that will use his mobility, but only when necessary and fully advantageous.

Another thing that bothered me last night was that on many 3rd downs, whether short or long to go, Schaub was in the "shotgun." Sage remained under center throughout most of the 3rd down plays. This may very well linked to the "rattled" factor I mentioned above. But for whatever the reason, once you use the "shotgun" routinely in 3rd down situations, you are basically removing the run option to the defense. This will allow for focused concentration of the defenses' attack on the limited offensive options ........and this will eventually work against you.

You can always say that Sage was working against the 2nd team defense which was a weaker defense, but you would also have to say that he wasn't playing with the 1st team offense. This is not just a little unimportant factor........theoretically better more reliable receivers and RBs (eg., Slaton), and better protection from a stronger defense.

The argument of "separation" has not been settled in my mind.

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