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Old 08-18-2008   #21
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Not true. I didn't want Salaam to make the team even if we kept 10. I was hoping that Weary would be the 10th. However, I always thought it possible that Salaam could make the team as a 10th player- though I doubt it will happen.

First, it's unlikely that we carry 10 given the depth at positions like WR, CB, S, RB... Second, Salaam wouldn't even be on the active roster barring a significant injury problem on the OL, so Salaam would likely request being waived- which I'm sure Kubiak would grant.... I sure would!
And as I said before, everything you're assuming is still at best premature.

Until Salaam is waived or put on the 53 man roster, there's no way to say who's right and who's not. Say all the I told you so's that you want, but I'll let things shake out over the next 2-3 weeks.
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No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about. Butler has played almost exclusively at LT this preseason, with the exception of the 2nd quarter of game one. And, he's been excellent


Who are you waiting for to emerge at Center- White is our backup and the only other guy is Eslinger- and he STINKS!
Tis the first time I heard of exclusive with exception!

Now, I may be wrong, but I think I saw #78 at times on the right side in the Saints game. Can you do me a favor and go back and check it for me, thank you!

I understand that as of right now, White could get the backup role at C. I have always like his motor (I even said so during TC the year before), but IMHO, I think he can be more effective at G.

Also, I like Myer's play at G more than at C for the Broncos last year.
Dosn't mean that Kubiak will put him at G.

If White emerges at C, then I will feel better for the Texans. I have no problem with that!
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I understand that as of right now, White could get the backup role at C. I have always like his motor (I even said so during TC the year before), but IMHO, I think he can be more effective at G.

Also, I like Myer's play at G more than at C for the Broncos last year.
Dosn't mean that Kubiak will put him at G.

If White emerges at C, then I will feel better for the Texans. I have no problem with that!
I've been thinking about this (Myers at G), I wasn't terribly impressed with CM at C during the 1st game but thought he picked it up a little (along with all the other OL against the saints). I think we'll still be looking at C/G combo type of guys and when one really establishes themselves at C, it'll be all the better. I know right now we're thinking that Myers is that guy, and hope he ends up being that. The relationship between the C and QB is vitally important.
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Tis the first time I heard of exclusive with exception!

Now, I may be wrong, but I think I saw #78 at times on the right side in the Saints game. Can you do me a favor and go back and check it for me, thank you!

I understand that as of right now, White could get the backup role at C. I have always like his motor (I even said so during TC the year before), but IMHO, I think he can be more effective at G.

Also, I like Myer's play at G more than at C for the Broncos last year.
Dosn't mean that Kubiak will put him at G.

If White emerges at C, then I will feel better for the Texans. I have no problem with that!
I don't think I was clear: White is the backup Center. Eslinger won't make the team. If we have seven active Olmen, it's likely that White would backup at C and G while Butler would be the swing.

Regarding Butler: he played LT every down after Brown went out in the N.O game. Frye, #75, played RT every down.

In the Denver game, Butler played RT for the second quarter, then Butler played LT the final two quarters and Frye played RT the final two quarters with one exception... Butler came out for one play early in the 4th with a limp and Frye moved to Lt for the one play, they switched back a play later.
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And as I said before, everything you're assuming is still at best premature.

Until Salaam is waived or put on the 53 man roster, there's no way to say who's right and who's not. Say all the I told you so's that you want, but I'll let things shake out over the next 2-3 weeks.
Pre-mature... yes, but Kubiak has no problem putting young guys in key positions, even if that means he knows we'll struggle at times. He started Spencer & Brown(at least I think he'll start Brown in teh regular season) as rookies, and move Salaam to the bench.

I have no doubt, that Butler will be our swing tackle, and Ephraim will be waived.

I'm a big Ephraim fan, but the wrighting is on the wall.

Totally off subject, but I don't see Briesel making the team. I'd much rather see White moved to the first team. I know we'll struggle at times, but I think in the long run, it'll work out better for us.
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Also, I like Myer's play at G more than at C for the Broncos last year.
Dosn't mean that Kubiak will put him at G.

If White emerges at C, then I will feel better for the Texans. I have no problem with that!
I could go with that as well.


Butler did play a lot at RT against the Saints. I think he was our best run blocker from either side, on the second team. Pass protection.... he isn't going to crack the starting line-up, but definitely serviceable.
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