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Old 01-20-2005   #81
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How much is known about Cheatwood's playing capabilities in the U.S.A
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Does this seem odd to anyone else? We have Wong and Babin on the outside right now alternating Peek in as of late...why would we be looking at this type of player right now? Only thing I could think of is backup OLB .
It doesn't seem odd at all. Wong was our sack leader with only 5.5 sacks all season. We always could use a better pass rusher
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It doesn't seem odd at all. Wong was our sack leader with only 5.5 sacks all season. We always could use a better pass rusher
So who do you bench, the guy who led the team in sacks last year who is scheduled to make 4.5 million this season or the guy who you traded up to get who needs another year or two on the field to learn and make his transition?
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Some of you seem to assume that Cheatwood is going to start right away.

There is a world of difference between the CFL and the NFL. Cheatwood is going to compete for a backup spot on the team and if he surprises the staff he could have a chance to compete for a starting job.

Let's not get carried away projecting him as a starter right off the bat.
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That is kinda what I meant in my post, but you worded it much better, thanks.
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Wong is entering the final year of his contract as is Sharper.
This is interesting, who else is entering the final year of their contract ?
This could shed some light on which direction we go in the draft.

I can't imagine it being anything other that defense now. DL or ILB. Please spread the word that DJ didn't play that well in the Rose Bowl.
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Sharper is gonna break the bank.. you watch.
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How much is known about Cheatwood's playing capabilities in the U.S.A
He went to Ohio State. He started as a DB, then moved to LB then I think in his senior year was moved to DE. He had a very good year and was considered a potential draft pick, but you have to think that he was pretty raw having played only one year at DE. Also, I don’t know how big he was back then. Clearly he’d been bulking up pretty dramatically throughout his college career, and I think he’s put on 10 lbs or so in his time in the CFL too. So he was a marginal draft pick type guy out of college and he’s improved in the CFL as well as gotten bigger. If he can adjust back to the NFL style game, which he ought to be able to do given a little time, he stands a very good chance of being a very good NFL player.

A lot of the CFL guys who go back to the NFL after a time in the CFL have a story of some sort, so in assessing them it’s useful to find out what that story was. In Cheatwood’s case he seems to have done a fair bit of growing in college and only started playing DE in his Sr. year, IIRC. He continued to grow, both physically and as a player, in the CFL. I think he’s a very good prospect for you now although I wouldn’t predict that he starts right away. Given your depth at the position and the players who will be FAs next year, it wouldn’t surprise me if they are thinking more about next year to give him a shot at starting.
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Yet another Tiger Cats fan from Hamilton here!! Being a fan of both leagues, I can say that yes, the game is different, but for a guy like Cheatwood who truly is a QB's worst nightmare, I don't think the transition is going to be that tough. Sure, he may not start his first season down here.. but then again, I wouldn't rule the possibility out either. He's got speed and a whole lot of passion.

I just wanted to wish Tim and the Texans, a lot of luck next season!!
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who else is entering the final year of their contract ?
Notable contracts that end after the '05 season (guys with at least 3 years but less than 4 will be RFAs - guys with 4 or more years will be UFAs):

Armstrong
K Brown
Domanick
Peek
Pitts
Ragone
Sharper
R Walker
Wand
Wong

Technically, Carr's contract will also expire after '05. But before anyone panics, there's a built in option in his contract that will allow the Texans to extend him through '08 - if they choose to execute a rather large option bonus before March '06. He's now being paid like a top echelon QB so it's time for him to become a top echelon QB.
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How's your O-line, we had a guy out of Louisville Jonta Woodard 6-5 325 lbs. He came to our free agent camp and showed enough promise to get invited to our real camp, he then proceded to not only make the team but as a starter, he only missed 1 series of downs all year, and that was due to a faked injury. he would be an asset to any team.
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for a guy like Cheatwood who truly is a QB's worst nightmare
What if this guy, coming in out of nowhere for the price of a song & dance,
turns out to be the pass rushing phenom we were hoping Babin would be ?
Somebody would have a serious case of egg on their face.
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What if this guy, coming in out of nowhere for the price of a song & dance,
turns out to be the pass rushing phenom we were hoping Babin would be ?
Somebody would have a serious case of egg on their face.
Why? Even if Babin does not turn out to be a good football player draft mistakes are a part of the business. I applaud the Texans for contining to overturn stones to find the edge rusher. anyway, I would suspect the everyone favorite, Peek, is the one would should worry most about is job.
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Notable contracts that end after the '05 season (guys with at least 3 years but less than 4 will be RFAs - guys with 4 or more years will be UFAs)
Gaffney will also eligible for UFA after the ’05 season because he’s met incentives to void his contract. I think the Texans will sign Jabar to an extension before that happens.

I also believe that the Texans and Carr will come to terms on a new deal after '05 that will ensure David being the Texan QB past 2010 (see McNabb, Culpepper, etc.)
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why should peek worry, he was very limited to playing time, BUT when he did play he always made big plays for us
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Actually, I think Babin will be a good football player for us, but not be the pass rushing dimension this D needs so badly. But I'm convinced that's the
reason they paid so much for Babin, and they simply misjudged his abilities.
They let players who could help us in that area - the likes of Posey & Foley, slip thru their fingers (for whatever reason), and one gets the feeling we will have a deja vu situation with Peek.
Discovering the Cheatwoods is not their problem, its developing and retaining these guys after they find them.
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they have let some good ones go, thats for sure.
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Gaffney will also eligible for UFA after the ’05 season because he’s met incentives to void his contract
Yes, for some reason I left Gaffney off my list. There's probably other errors so feel free to pick away. That was a hastily thrown down post early this morning and I need to go back and look at it a little closer when I have more time.

As far as the subject of this thread, I heard Charley say this morning that they are going to give Cheatwood a chance at ILB as well as outside. I had it in my head that this guy was strictly an edge guy/OLB candidate.

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How much did Cheatwoods audition cost? Is it like 3rd round money.
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Just an FYI on Cheatwood. Casserly said this morning that they are not sure if Cheatwood will be playing ILB or OLB. That came as a suprise to me considering his potential as a pass rusher. He said they would decide where he is naturally suited during the spring.
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