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Old 08-15-2008   #21
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Kiwi you've been down under too long. Those little Rugby boys would get their butts run in the ground if they tried to take on somebody like Deuce McAllister or AD coming thru the line.
And they couldn't make it in the NFL: too slow to play in the backfield (either one) or WR and
too small to be backers.
But don't get me wrong, I'd love to visit NZ. I know the country down there is spectacular & gorgeous and the people actually don't hate us like 'bout everybody else in the world does.
With their tendency to get injured, I don't think Deuce McAllister or Adrian Peterson would be very eager to play rugby without a helmet and pads to protect them.
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Kiwi you've been down under too long. Those little Rugby boys would get their butts run in the ground if they tried to take on somebody like Deuce McAllister or AD coming thru the line.
And they couldn't make it in the NFL: too slow to play in the backfield (either one) or WR and
too small to be backers.
But don't get me wrong, I'd love to visit NZ. I know the country down there is spectacular & gorgeous and the people actually don't hate us like 'bout everybody else in the world does.
I think you need to watch a bit more rugby.
To slow?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYVz2OkXMU0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k4s_...eature=related - I think Habana, along with a lot of other rugby wingers would give some NFL backfield players a run for their money.

As for linebackers, their very comparable with loose forwards in rugby - can't be bothered getting weights and heights but however McAllisters size is a standard size for rugby centres - which is a position that requires power and speed (so it's a similar to a power back in the NFL).
For example:
Deuce McAllister - Height: 6-1 Weight: 232
Stirling Mortlock (Aussie Centre) - Height: 6-3 Weight: 231

As KiwiTexan said, their aren't 300lb players in rugby, simply because rugby requires stamina, where football is focused on power (in the trenches).

On tackling between the two sports - pretty hard to compare since in football you can pretty much have no regard for your own body, where in rugby you can't because you don't have the pads, plus you have to use arms in the tackle. But from the football games i've watched, i haven't seen much to suggest that football players are poorer in tackling than rugby players (with arms i'm meaning), just that football players have more options in bringing the player down

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ryans seems to get them down any which way
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Had to bring this back up, Jacques Reeves getting stiff armed by Reggie Bush while he was chasing him to the sideline, he could of limited that play by 5 yards had he attacked Bush low from the beginning rather than trying to go High on him and making a fool of himself.
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Another play were proper technique would of made a difference was the Bush TD Hurdle play.

Even kids in NZ know that at the Goal Line you have to go high on the attacker to stop momentum from taking the attacker over the line. To dive at the feet of a player who has hundreds of clips on youtube of him jumping over players into the endzone was just plain dumb.

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Had to bring this back up, Jacques Reeves getting stiff armed by Reggie Bush while he was chasing him to the sideline, he could of limited that play by 5 yards had he attacked Bush low from the beginning rather than trying to go High on him and making a fool of himself.
Perhaps Reggie would have just jumped over him since he attacks low with his eyes closed.

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Another play were proper technique would of made a difference was the Bush TD Hurdle play.

Even kids in NZ know that at the Goal Line you have to go high on the attacker to stop momentum from taking the attacker over the line. To dive at the feet of a player who has hundreds of clips on youtube of him jumping over players into the endzone was just plain dumb.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq7VRTSxU1Q
if he attacked Reggie higher he just pushes him down with a stiffy.

or perhaps Reeves just kinda isn't a starter quality player since he couldn't handle Bush high or low...both attempts were kind of embarrassing.
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Kiwi you've been down under too long. Those little Rugby boys would get their butts run in the ground if they tried to take on somebody like Deuce McAllister or AD coming thru the line.
And they couldn't make it in the NFL: too slow to play in the backfield (either one) or WR and
too small to be backers.
But don't get me wrong, I'd love to visit NZ. I know the country down there is spectacular & gorgeous and the people actually don't hate us like 'bout everybody else in the world does.
deuce mcallister would get owned if he ran it straight to jerry collins or sonny bill williams

but any ways do come on down to nz....the steak n cheese pies are great
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deuce mcallister would get owned if he ran it straight to jerry collins or sonny bill williams

but any ways do come on down to nz....the steak n cheese pies are great
Don't get me started on $BW. He is more overhyped than Reggie Bust.

I do however agree that Jerry Collins could fill a hole pretty well in the NFL.
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but found this
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Wasn't that the game the Cardinal WR or TE snapped his ankle in half? That was kinda nasty. He was playing well too.
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Art of Tackling? Go to the Babin Doju and train under Sensei Jason if you want to learn the true art of tackling.


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Wasn't that the game the Cardinal WR or TE snapped his ankle in half? That was kinda nasty. He was playing well too.
No this was against the Buccs and the receiver was Paris Warren.
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Perhaps Reggie would have just jumped over him since he attacks low with his eyes closed.


if he attacked Reggie higher he just pushes him down with a stiffy.

or perhaps Reeves just kinda isn't a starter quality player since he couldn't handle Bush high or low...both attempts were kind of embarrassing.
Maybe Reggie Bush is improving as a running back.

Oh, wait... I'm not allowed to say that here, am I?

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Art of Tackling? Go to the Babin Doju and train under Sensei Jason if you want to learn the true art of tackling.


We closed down that shop for Boulware... and he wasn't good enough to get solid playing time.
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Nah thats just Babin giving the Titan a helping hand on his way to the endzone, not tackling him. lol
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Speaking in general terms, Football players tackling is rubbish compared to the standard of tackling in Rugby codes.

Everytime I watch a NFL game I come away laughing at attempted tackles, especially the ones where the defender throws himself blindly at the players legs. Would never happen in Rugby because a) its illegal, b) because it is patently ineffective.

Good form tackling, would save many a yard and many a big play.

Too bad it seems like a dying art.
I've always been surprised that more rugby players don't make the jump to American football, especially as defenders. The money is definitely there as an incentive.

I had a friend that used to play. It's a crazy sport to watch, and I have much respect for what those guys do out there. You gotta' be one tough hombre is all I can say.
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