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Old 08-08-2008   #1
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They are having a discussion about it here on the radio in CC. A lot of people especially the host are still saying we messed up by drafting Mario instead of VY. They say the same stuff, he led them to the playoffs, he sales tickets, you know. Anyway if y'all want to call in the # is 361-884-1230. Call in and show your Texans support.
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Default Re: Drafting Mario over VY

Of course, at that time all the people who were wailing the loudest were complaining because we did not take Reggie Bush, not Vince Young. When Vince Young went #3 to the Titans, most of the experts thought that was a big mistake, and that the Titans should have drafted Matt Leinert instead. Some people obviously have either very short or very selective memories.
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There having a discussion about it here on the radio in CC. A lot of people especailly the host are still saying we messed up by drafting Mario instead of VY. They say the same stuff, he led them to the playoffs, he sales tickets, you know. Anyway if y'all want to call in the # is 361-884-1230. Call in and show your Texans support.
I can not believe that people are still arguing this on the radio.Mario speaks for himself but i want to call in so bad
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I can not believe that people are still arguing this on the radio.Mario speaks for himself but i want to call in so bad
Do it!

You can email them also at sportslounge@espn1230.com I don't have the time to call in but I sent them an email.
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I can not believe that people are still arguing this on the radio.Mario speaks for himself but i want to call in so bad
I believe it, cause I have had 3 people in the last two weeks say it to me and with a straight face too.
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This is what I emailed them.....keep in mind they were on location at a tobacco shop....

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You need to stop smoking there buddy. The Titans made the playoffs despite VY. The defense and Haynesworth took them to the playoffs. Yeah I said the defense got them there. He is not a West Coast QB another reason we didn't draft him. He scored a 6 on the Wonderlic and he also contemplated retirement after his rookie year. I don't want anybody with his mentality on my team. Also on the trade down....you can't do it if there is no one willing to trade with you. It takes 2 to tango. Who cares about merchandise and tickets sales? Championships are more important. Give the team a little break, Kubes took over a horrible team after the 2005 season(2-14) to (6-10)2006 to (8-8)2007. It maybe until next year until we win the Conference but we will make noise late in the year and sniff(if not make)the playoffs.

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By all means the show is off until Monday but it would be nice if we have a lot of emails for them when they get back. Come on guys and ladies, let'em have it!


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Default Re: Drafting Mario over VY

Can they get over it? Vince is a good athlete, that needs tons of help on defense and a dumbed down offense. The league will really catch up to that running crap this year.
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Default Re: Drafting Mario over VY

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I believe it, cause I have had 3 people in the last two weeks say it to me and with a straight face too.
I might have told them never to speak to me about sports again
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I believe it, cause I have had 3 people in the last two weeks say it to me and with a straight face too.
I feel your pain.
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I believe it, cause I have had 3 people in the last two weeks say it to me and with a straight face too.
If something is said often enough and long enough, it becomes perceived reality. Unless Mario become the second coming of Reggie White X 10 there will be a certain contingent of dipsticks that will only remember what was said when he was drafted.
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Default Re: Drafting Mario over VY

I just don't get it anymore... 2 years is enough.

The only reason Vince was a popular choice to come here is because he's from houston and just won the National Championship. We gave carr an $8million bonus and then we're to pay #1 money for another QB? On top of that, he wasn't concidered the #1 QB in the draft. Like mentioned, Tennessee was blasted in part because most 'experts' thought Leinart should go there with Chow.

Being from Houston and going to Texas doesn't all of a sudden make it OK to draft a player #1 instead of #3 or #10. It's a FOOTBALL decision (as CC said numerous times) not most popular or because he's the hometown kid.
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Default Re: Drafting Mario over VY

Reggie Bush will never be as good at his position as Mario will be at his. Vince Young might, if properly surrounded by talent and good coaching. The Mario pick was a good one, and I'm glad it was made.

Now, two years ago I was against it, but hey, like a typical politician I've flip flopped my position. LOL
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now- no way! Mario is the centerpiece of the Texans defense, flashes only upside actualizing his potential = to superstar atheletes in any sport.
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I just don't get it anymore... 2 years is enough.
We knew when this started, that this was going to be part of it for the rest of Mario's career.... 3 years won't be enough... 4 years won't be enough.... Mario will have to remain a starter, and play at a high level for years.... good for us.

I don't think Reggie is going to be relegated to "back-up" status. He may never be "THE" playmaker, but he'll be a strong complimentary player, like a Reggie Wayne, or Houshmandzadah(sp)...

QBs aren't so lucky. Other than David Carr, no other QB will be given more than 4 years, to prove they should be a starter. It's obvious Fischer is using a different ruler/standard to judge Vince Young, than many on this board is using, but long story short, this is a make or break year for Vince...... not necessarily so for Mario.
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The only reason Vince was a popular choice to come here is because he's from houston and just won the National Championship. We gave carr an $8million bonus and then we're to pay #1 money for another QB? On top of that, he wasn't concidered the #1 QB in the draft. Like mentioned, Tennessee was blasted in part because most 'experts' thought Leinart should go there with Chow.
When this team paid David Carr that extra $8 mil, they were making the decision to pass on Vince Young. Doesn't really matter that they mad it in February, and not the Draft. They chose Reggie/Mario over Vince Young.

As a side note, Tenessee parting ways with Norm Chow shows how much Fischer(and the Titans) believe in Vince Young.
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Being from Houston and going to Texas doesn't all of a sudden make it OK to draft a player #1 instead of #3 or #10. It's a FOOTBALL decision (as CC said numerous times) not most popular or because he's the hometown kid.
Some people will get it, some people won't. It was the right decision to make, so there really is no need to get bent out of shape when some one says contrary.

We'll see..... that's what I'll say.

But I do have to ask my self...... would we have gone to the play-offs by now, had we drafted Vince Young instead.

I don't believe so..... 'nuff said.
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They advertised that they are home of Houston Texans football, advertised Friday they would in fact air the game and what do ya know, they showed us up, they didn't air the game.



Thanks to Steel Blue Texans for posting the link to the stream.
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Funny story......

I was at the game last night, going up to my seat(section 608... the nose bleeds). As I got to my section, the beer guy was at the bottom of the stairs, and I asked him for a beer.

He handed me a Budweiser, and told me it would be $7.25. I said,"$7.25 WTF.... you're killing me!!"

He laughed it off, and said, "Just be glad we didn't draft Vince Young. If we had, you'd be paying $8.25 for this same beer."

I just said, "hrmph" and continued on to my seat.
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As a side note, Tenessee parting ways with Norm Chow shows how much Fischer(and the Titans) believe in Vince Young.
I think it shows that Young was a bad fit for Chow's offense. I don't think Chow was ever able to put in his version of the WCO with Young.

Offensive coordinators are easy to kick to the curb. QBs who are high picks with mega signing bonuses, not so. Texan fans should know that as well as anyone.
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They are having a discussion about it here on the radio in CC. A lot of people especially the host are still saying we messed up by drafting Mario instead of VY. They say the same stuff, he led them to the playoffs, he sales tickets, you know. Anyway if y'all want to call in the # is 361-884-1230. Call in and show your Texans support.
Write that radio station and tell them that they really ought to investigate subjects with which they want to discuss. Otherwise, you and other listeners will go elsewhere... Streaming radio. It's a beautiful thing.

On the other hand, it's ALWAYS nice to know who the ignorant people out there are.
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you would think Mario's last season would shut people up about this.
Alas, love is blind.... *sigh*
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