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Old 07-25-2008   #61
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Yeah that where I heard it. They said he was an hour late due to him signing his contract, but when he arrived he jumped right in to the first team. I'm assuming Salaam was upset again...
I am glad Salaam was upset, I would rather him wanting to start than just accepting bench status. Creates better competition.
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20 slots to soon? Then you say the Chargers were going to take him with best player available, so which is it. He was best player available or 20 slots to soon.

Tony Ugoh was drafted in the second round to be the air appearent franchise LT by the colts so does it mean because that is what they envisioned his salary should be different than any other lineman drafted in the second?

Look at what Long got versus what Ryan got, that right there says the QBs are paid differently. OL are not paid as much as QB, that is fact.
GTF over yourself. Find me one predraft rating that had brown rated higher than low fifties ? You won't find one. The point with the chargers was they were not pressed to find a starter with the pick...they could afford to take the best LT/O-lineman on the board and groom him. And that's what they did with the db they drafted. Cason doesn't have to start day one. As far as the QB money is concerned, you believe what you want Matt Ryan isn't worth 72 million in any era.
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Yes and every so called expert had Mario Williams as a bust the next Sam Bowie. The guys you see on TV do not know crap from shinola, it is the pro-scouts, coaches and GMs that thought Duane Brown was rated that high not some guy with hair gel.

If more than one GM thought he was worth drafting there then how can someone say he was drafted to soon? I guess you know more than the Chargers, Seahawks and the Texans.

As far as the money goes, everyone already says the guys at the top get paid to much but it is what it is. A QB will always be paid more than an olineman, period.
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NFL Draft Scout had Duane Brown as the 7th best OT.
Sam Baker was 6th and he was drafted @ #21
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Scouts can't stop raving about the strength of this offensive line class and Duane Brown is yet another reason why. A 6-4, 315 lb. former right end (he caught 3 passes for 64 yards in 2004), Brown is obviously a fantastic athlete and he moves very well for a man of his dimensions, making him a perfect fit for teams that utilize a zone blocking scheme. On the negative side he isn't overly strong or physical, he won't dominate opponents with sheer power and he's still somewhat raw but those are all things that can be corrected. After flying under the radar as a presumed mid-rounder throughout most of the process Brown's stock has steadily been rising and it now looks like he's a sure-fire 2nd rounder with a chance to maybe even work his way into the late first.
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What is it ? It's a new QB with his first concussion...three left in the tank. One in '08, one in '09, Schaub is basically done. You two can argue what the rankings were. I saw them....he was the best on the board when we took him. And the point to all of this: the contract will be more in line with what Alberts and Williams got and not what Flacco got. The two OLT's should recieve more. Rivals, GBN all had him fifty or lower.... but when you're qb is being beaten to death and the franchise has never spent a high pick on one hgher than fifty you do what they did. You reach for a guy the o-line coach says can do the job. I watched him in the east-west shirners game....nothing special. Just a guy. We'll see what kind of guru Gibbs truly is. One more point, I haven't heard Tony Ugoh holding out or unhappy. If he makes all sixteen starts in '08 he is going to want to get paid in '09. They are going through that right now in Buffalo with Jason Peters. Unless Ugoh's agent is a fool he will want top five money next season.

GBN top 100: # 54 Duane Brown OT 6-5, 305 Virginia Tech
Scouts .com OT rankings: # 15

ESPN Clayton :
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2. Houston Texans: Things went horribly for the Texans, who wanted one of the top offensive linemen. Branden Albert or Chris Williams would have worked, but they were gone, so the Texans traded down. They might have been able to pull out cornerback Mike Jenkins, but he went to Dallas with the 25th pick. The Texans ended up with Virginia Tech offensive lineman Duane Brown, whom many thought was a second-rounder.

http://www.warroomreport.com/2008nfl...otrankings.htm
the War room : # 16 OT's.

About football top 100: 60. Duane Brown
http://football.about.com/od/nfldraf...afttoppros.htm

Rivals OT rankings:
12. Duane Brown, 6-5, 305, Virginia Tech

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/viewprora...rt=1&Year=2008

Frank Coyle has him ranked in the top 100 ..... not.

Draft stock # 76 overall
76 Duane Brown
http://www.draftstock.com/site_main/content/view/60/53/

The Huddle Report:
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE_...board100.shtml
# 66 over all.

I'm not an ESPN insider....but there was clear consenses on the Brown ranking....the only two who disagreed were the Chargers and Gibbs. I have no problem with the reach....but it was a reach.
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What is it ? It's a new QB with his first concussion...three left in the tank. One in '08, one in '09, Schaub is basically done. You two can argue what the rankings were. I saw them....he was the best on the board when we took him. An the point to all fo this the contract will be more in line with what Alberts and Williams got and not what Flacco got. The two OLT's should recieve more. Rivals, GBN all had him fifty or lower.... but when you're qb is being beaten to death and the franchise has never spent a high pick on one hgher than fifty you do what they did. You reach for a guy the o-line coach says can do the job. I watched him in the east-west shirners game....nothing special. Just a guy. We'll see what kind of guru Gibbs truly is. One more point, I haven't heard Tony Ugoh holding out or unhappy. If he makes all sixteen starts in '08 he is going to want to get paid in '09. They are going through that right now in Buffalo with Jason Peters. Unless Ugoh's agent is a fool he will want top five money next season.

GBN: 54 # Duane Brown OT 6-5, 305 Virginia Tech
Scouts .com # 15

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http://www.warroomreport.com/2008nfl...otrankings.htm
the War room : # 16 OT's.

About football: 60. Duane Brown
http://football.about.com/od/nfldraf...afttoppros.htm

Rivals OT rankings:
12. Duane Brown, 6-5, 305, Virginia Tech

http://nfldraft.rivals.com/viewprora...rt=1&Year=2008

Frank Coyle has him ranked in the top 100 ..... not.

Draft stock # 76 overall
76 Duane Brown
http://www.draftstock.com/site_main/content/view/60/53/

The Huddle Report:
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/FREE_...board100.shtml
# 66 over all.

I'm not an ESPN insider....but there was clear consenses on the Brown ranking....the only two who disagreed were the Chargers and Gibbs. I have no problem with the reach....but it was a reach.
There are only 32 draft boards that matter. None of them end in "dot com".
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Well I've never seen one of those....and neither have you.
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Exactly. That plus the draftniks force history into their projections. It has been a couple decades since 5 much less 8 LT's went in the first round so they force players down.

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Well I've never seen one of those....and neither have you.
And that means bubkiss to the point being made.
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GTF over yourself. Find me one predraft rating that had brown rated higher than low fifties ? You won't find one.
Does it really matter? At best, internet draft boards are created by amatuers. They're about as relevant as mock drafts.
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Well I've never seen one of those....and neither have you.
No but info does leak out about where teams had players ranked, how else would we know SD was going to take Duane Brown with the next selection?
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Well I've never seen one of those....and neither have you.
And yet you know that only the Chargers or Texans would have taken him in that spot?

What if the other 7 teams that drafted OL this year would have been behind the Texans in the draft order?
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Why does all this matter anyway? He's signed and on the team. This is reminding me of all the arguments over Mario.
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Don't know if you guys know his contract numbers yet, but he signed for 5-year, $11.5 million.
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No but info does leak out about where teams had players ranked, how else would we know SD was going to take Duane Brown with the next selection?
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I also recall another team saying the same thing.

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Why does all this matter anyway? He's signed and on the team. This is reminding me of all the arguments over Mario.
lol reminds me of a "Major league" movie quote

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I can't believe that somebody on this board in particular is talking about how a guy is a bust before he plays a down of football, saying that a player is going to be forever injured after his first starting season, is getting any sort of replies from anybody with half a brain. Let him pitch a hissy fit about who was drafted where, I don't give a shit. All I care about is that the Texans got a few extra picks along with a new OLT (both things I wanted to them to do). Now get his ass coached up and get him in the game :gotexans:
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