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Old 07-01-2008   #1
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Eleven coaches identified Rodney Harrison (14 personal fouls since 2001) as the NFL's dirtiest player.
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A review of data since 2001 shows Arizona Cardinals safety Adrian Wilson with a league-high 17 personal fouls. Harrison and New Orleans Saints defensive end Will Smith are tied for second with 14, followed by Patriots defensive lineman Richard Seymour (13), Miami Dolphins defensive end Jason Taylor (12), late Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor (12) and Cleveland Browns defensive lineman Shaun Rogers (11).
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Former Patriots receiver Deion Branch drew a line between Harrison's hard-nosed play and the approach Houston Texans defensive lineman Travis Johnson took after knocking out then-Miami Dolphins quarterback Trent Green with a legal hit last season. Johnson stood over the fallen Green and taunted him.

"[Harrison] is not that type of dude, I promise you," Branch said. "He's not going to go into a game and try to hurt someone. I can speak like this because I played with him. And I know for the people who didn't play with him, you could understand why they would say it, but he is not that type of guy. That is not his game."

Personal-foul penalties aren't the only way to measure a player's dirtiness. Just as a skilled criminal avoids detection, a player with sinister intentions might develop ways to inflict damage when officials aren't looking.

Harrison, 3 5, has been dishing out punishment in the NFL since 1994. The league has fined and suspended him repeatedly, including in 2002 when he leveled all-time receiving leader Jerry Rice with a helmet-to-helmet shot.

Most head coac hes polled by ESPN.com identified Harrison quickly and without equivocation.
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smartest players on defense(demeco not mentioned to save some from looking)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...mes&id=3463857


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Gary Kubiak, going into his third season as the head coach in Houston, said he has been lucky to work with good ownership. He was the offensive coordinator in Denver under Bowlen for a decade and now works for Texans owner Bob McNair, who received a vote for best owner. Kubiak said he feels fortunate to have worked under such quality ownership. He said his job would be much more difficult if he didn't work for quality people.
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I like how they take the Travis Johnson part out of context (again) and make it seem like he was head hunting Green because he had said something to him in the parking lot.
Then immeadiatly follow it up with Branch saying Harrison "isn't that type of player ... to go into a game and try to hurt someone"

I love journalists.
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I think Osi Umenyiora should be on the list as one of the leagues dirtiest players.....ya know...
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I like how they take the Travis Johnson part out of context (again) and make it seem like he was head hunting Green because he had said something to him in the parking lot.
Then immeadiatly follow it up with Branch saying Harrison "isn't that type of player ... to go into a game and try to hurt someone"

I love journalists.

Guess Branch would have complimented Green for going at his knees.

As usual the media has it bassakwards.

I, for one, am glad that TJ is that "type of player". We need more like him!

Go 'get em' TJ....


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Albert Haynesworth.
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Albert Haynesworth.
That scumbag should have definitely been mentioned.
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Former Patriots receiver Deion Branch drew a line between Harrison's hard-nosed play and the approach Houston Texans defensive lineman Travis Johnson took after knocking out then-Miami Dolphins quarterback Trent Green with a legal hit last season. Johnson stood over the fallen Green and taunted him.
Deion... We get that you are sticking up for your teammate, but; A) Harrison IS the dirtiest player in the league and B) Comparing TJ's situation is about as comparable as apples and oranges. Use a better argument like, "Harrison is not as dirty as Conrad Dobler was..."


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Roy Williams and his horsecollaring ass is a dirty player. He intentionaly tries to injure players.
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John Runyan has always been one of the dirtiest players in the league.
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Roy Williams and his horsecollaring ass is a dirty player. He intentionaly tries to injure players.
Yes, definitely Roy boy......and for someone that is pretty new to the league, keep your eye on Laron Landry.....very dirty player. He should have been fined a few times last year.
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Former Patriots receiver Deion Branch drew a line between Harrison's hard-nosed play and the approach Houston Texans defensive lineman Travis Johnson took after knocking out then-Miami Dolphins quarterback Trent Green with a legal hit last season. Johnson stood over the fallen Green and taunted him.
I hate how that is worded. It should have been "Travis Johnson accidentally knocked out Trent Green last year when trying to tackle someone on a botched play. Trent tried to cut block Johnson blindly, and unfortunatley took a knee by a unaware Johnson trying to make a tackle. Now what happened after the play, was unacceptable".
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I might have worded it this way:

Trent Green, the 36 year old, 14 year veteran knocked himself out while attempting a low block, aimed at Travis Johnson's knee. The hit could have caused irreparable damage to Johnson's knee, and in addition, caused Johnson to land awkwardly on the top of his head, barely escaping permanent neck injury. Not recognizing that Green had knocked himself out cold, Johnson was overheard saying "Mr. Green, that was very impolite and unnescessary" as Johnson continued towards the sideline without stopping...
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This is why you can't trust reporting on anything you didn't see yourself:

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1. Travis Johnson did not knock out Green with a legal hit. The nouns, actives and passives got all messed up. Here's my description from last year:

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Johnson hurt his knee after being blocked legally but low by Miami quarterback Trent Green in a play where Green concussed himself.
2. If you watch the play in real time, Johnson does not stand over Green. He yells at him on his way to walking to the bench. You know, because uh, it's football, you get mad when someone puts a helmet on your knee and makes you do a somersault in the air and land on your head.

3. Irony irony. If we are talking about dirty play like we normally mean it, it is Green who did the legal but arguably dirty block on purpose. He said he hit Johnson low intentionally because that was the only way he figured he could block a guy Johnson's size. By hitting him on the knee with his freaking helmet.

I predicted that this was going to happen because most of the national media reports at the time were written in misleading, more sensationalist ways.
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And more:

Houston Texans, Travis Johnson in Particular Not Dirty Players
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Keith Obermann: "Worst Person in Journalism".
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When this play happened, I recall reading on the Notre Dame site I goto how misinformed they were about the whole inccident. because of the writers in the eras they live they did not see the actual game or the full speed play just the replay and TJ comments just after the game. I corrected the assumptions and misleading thoughts of the game with the help of your original article.

Unfortunately, the national media are like a bunch of parrots once one says it ... it is truth no matter how much it is fiction. If you ask most fans of other teams what is the two main issues the texans have, I can bet it the O-line will be the answer a lot of the times (as well as runningback). Our line is no where near as bad as the media made it outbut that has never benn corrected by the so called journalist out there.
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yep standing over a guy and mocking him as you end his career is a class act all around
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