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Old 06-07-2008   #21
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Can they invite to camp .. ala baseball .. as a nonroster invitee?
No, he would have to be on the roster to participate in camp.
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I have a very strong belief from the "feel" of this article and the very widely known Texans pattern of never telling anyone the truth about any injury regardless of it's severity (a pattern that continues through a coaching and GM change I might add) that we will never see Charles Spencer on the field again. There's just something about the way all of this was written that says loudly "Everyone knows this man is done except for him and all of you..." This feels like Tony Boselli. This feels a little bit like Domanick Davis.

If Charles Spencer even makes it to training camp the Texans will be talking about what a great effort he put forth to get back to where he is and what a shame it is that his career was ended so early. They'll wish him the best and that'll be it.
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I have a very strong belief from the "feel" of this article and the very widely known Texans pattern of never telling anyone the truth about any injury regardless of it's severity (a pattern that continues through a coaching and GM change I might add) that we will never see Charles Spencer on the field again. There's just something about the way all of this was written that says loudly "Everyone knows this man is done except for him and all of you..." This feels like Tony Boselli. This feels a little bit like Domanick Davis.

If Charles Spencer even makes it to training camp the Texans will be talking about what a great effort he put forth to get back to where he is and what a shame it is that his career was ended so early. They'll wish him the best and that'll be it.

I'm about as optimistic as any poster on these boards. I also tend to give the organization the benefit of the doubt...

I agree with literally every word from Hervoyel. Two weeks ago I was arguing with the entire board about the possibility of Spencer at RT and moving Winston to RG. However, I think they've made the writing on the wall pretty freakin' clear.
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The IR is different. I guess that is a possibility, though he wouldn't be able to practice with the team while he's on the IR, I don't think.
Unless he plays for NE - You can NOT practice with the team while on IR.
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I have a very strong belief from the "feel" of this article and the very widely known Texans pattern of never telling anyone the truth about any injury regardless of it's severity (a pattern that continues through a coaching and GM change I might add) that we will never see Charles Spencer on the field again. There's just something about the way all of this was written that says loudly "Everyone knows this man is done except for him and all of you..." This feels like Tony Boselli. This feels a little bit like Domanick Davis.

If Charles Spencer even makes it to training camp the Texans will be talking about what a great effort he put forth to get back to where he is and what a shame it is that his career was ended so early. They'll wish him the best and that'll be it.
Knowing that plus this latest example has me wondering what is really going on with DRob.
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Knowing that plus this latest example has me wondering what is really going on with DRob.
Why does it have you wondering about DRob? Has there been something you've seen that's given you cause for concern?
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Charles Spencer is quickly turning into one of my favorite players. A lot of people would have quit by now. I must tip my hat to him and I'll buy him a beer when I'm old enough.
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Looks like he's done here. If he doesn't make the 80, we'll never see him again. If he can make this cut, then I think he may go to the practice squad. I don't see PUP happening because he can't participate in training camp if he's PUP'd... And, he can't miss another training camp and then have any value to the club in midseason.
The other issue with the PUP is those players count against the 80 teams can take to camp. That's the real issue the Texans are facing. They've lost 7 roster spots because of NFL Europe and it's going to be tough to carry him if he can't participate. They could IR him, but then he's definitely lost for the season. It's a tough call.
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I never thought Spencer would make it back. I would have been shocked to the core if he ever made it back on the field. His injury was just too severe. The biggest issue I have with this organization, still, is it's unwillingness to level with us about players who they really know that have career-ending injuries.

They strung us along with Tony Boselli. They strung us along with Domanick Davis. They strung us along with Charles Spencer. And they are going to string us along with Dunta Robinson.

Just fricken pisses me off.
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I don't think our organization is what yall saying about not telling the truth.

Boselli was with diifferent FO and with Dominick, Kubiak came in Texans organization after his injury. So, Kubiak did not know what to expect from Dominick. By looking at from his past performance, he could been an asset to his team. However, turned out to be Dominick's injury was too severe and you know the rest of the story. To me, for Spencer, Kubiak gave him a chance to return if there is a chance even a slim chance. Because, Kubiak drafted him and he was so promising to become our future LT. Even with seemgly severy injury situation, some are able to come back and some are not. Simple as that.

I wish the best to Spencer as I was so high on him.(There's still hope in me that Spencer puts on TEXANS uni in this coming season)

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it would be such a shame if we let him go, another reason why you can't blame these guys for holding out and getting all the guaranteed money they can, never know when it's your last play, can't believe a teammate cost him everything
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Well, it's a very tough contact sport. And on that note...

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This is the Ugly side of the NFL. Can we jail Ron Dayne for hit and run?

run is such a strong word (for dayne anyway)..


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Starting to look kind of nasty for Big Nasty. Dang, I hate to think that it's going go that way. I knew the odds were real long, but just like most everyone here, I was pulling hard for the big guy.
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Given the turn of events, really, Ron Dayne should have earned the nick Big Nasty
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I dunno for sure, but didn't both Bosseli and Dominigue both put some pads on and make it to the practice field in one capacity or another ? But Spencer has not even done that so far and that's after 2 years of rehab. Not at all encouraging but Kubiak seemed optimistic all along and many times expressed an opinion that ultimately Spencer would play again, though he was also intentionally vague about when that would be ?
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I agree with Hervoyel. I never thought he would make it back but I was sure rooting for him...and still am.

Good luck Charles - I'm hoping you make it back on the field in a Texan uniform.
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I dunno for sure, but didn't both Bosseli and Dominigue both put some pads on and make it to the practice field in one capacity or another ? But Spencer has not even done that so far and that's after 2 years of rehab. Not at all encouraging but Kubiak seemed optimistic all along and many times expressed an opinion that ultimately Spencer would play again, though he was also intentionally vague about when that would be ?
Boselli never made it to a padded practice........his shoulder range of motion up until his release was significantly compromised..........the Texans weren't about to take on additional liablity with further injury.
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They strung us along with Tony Boselli. They strung us along with Domanick Davis. They strung us along with Charles Spencer. And they are going to string us along with Dunta Robinson.
I agree to a varying extent on your comments regarding Boselli, Davis, and Spencer. Though I think these players share in the blame. However, Robinson is well ahead of schedule in his rehab, according to everything I've heard. In fact, the Texans have tried to downplay how quickly Dunta might return. I can't lump Robinson's injury in with the rest.

Other than Lance Zierlein, you don't get a lot of honest opinion and inside information out of the Chronic. He's what Lance said in his blog on Thursday, 6/6, in response to a post on Spencer.

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can we sign dayne, trade him to the colts and pay him 5 mil to roll on peyton manning?
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