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Old 06-09-2008   #101
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I'm not so sure that Colvin wouldn't be a starter if he signs here. He was injured for the last 5 games and the playoffs last year, but the games he played he started (except for one).
At all of 250 pounds, I have a difficult time seeing Colvin starting at DE. All of the games he started for the Pats were at LB. It's also kind of interesting that while Weaver had a down year in all aspects in '07, he's historically been stronger against the rush and weaker against the past, while the opposite could be said of Colvin.
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At all of 250 pounds, I have a difficult time seeing Colvin starting at DE. All of the games he started for the Pats were at LB. It's also kind of interesting that while Weaver had a down year in all aspects in '07, he's historically been stronger against the rush and weaker against the past, while the opposite could be said of Colvin.
That's true. I didn't take into account his weight. Whether he's a starter or a reserve on our team, he would be a great addition! Hope Rick Smith can sign him!
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FYI, Bulman has been getting alot of reps at DE. Apparently he's been pretty impressive. John "No Neck" McLain said he looked good too (Take it FWIW).

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“I’ve gotten reps in there, especially at drop end,” Bulman said. “Getting the terminology, especially with the first team, and getting in with those guys and getting to gel – it’s definitely been really good because you won’t have that opportunity a lot. I think I’ve definitely taken advantage of it.”

The team’s coaches would agree. Bulman has lined up opposite defensive end Mario Williams and proved himself as a pass rusher.
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Not a big fan of Weaver moving inside. I don't think he did it this past year because he really wanted to nor did he look great much less effective. I also think our backups at DT this year look better then sliding him inside anyway.

I think this is Weaver's swan song this year unless he has some kind of year.

I'm not sure on Colvin signing here but one thing I'd like if he did is he might bring an attitude that makes this defense turn the proverbial corner. He's played in big games and won big games. There isn't a guy on this team on either side of the ball in the NFL that has done either.
I really agree with this statement. Our run defense was pretty suspect. If I recall when he was in the middle, we gave up alot of rushing TD and yards. Also I think the other DTs on the roster are going to solidify spots that will not be available for Weaver at DT.
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At first I thought it was crazy to think that Colvin would come here. But it keeps looking that he might. Over at HT.com they have an interview with Rick Smith and he said that the two sides have been in continuous contact trying to work something out.

Sounds like a contract to me. Or at least better than the last time when he just blew us off all together.
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At all of 250 pounds, I have a difficult time seeing Colvin starting at DE. All of the games he started for the Pats were at LB. It's also kind of interesting that while Weaver had a down year in all aspects in '07, he's historically been stronger against the rush and weaker against the past, while the opposite could be said of Colvin.
So, instead of keeping a 6.2 million dollar starter, now your saying we keep a 6.2 million dollar rush stopper who, in your own words, "had a down year in ALL aspects" last year. great
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Just hope it's a one-year deal or a front-loaded contract if it happens. We've still got a chunk of cap space to play with this year.
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The more I think about it, the more I'm not liking the idea. Rather than pay Colvin for what he's done, I'd rather keep our money and develop the talent that is already on this team... Adibi, Diles, Thompson... Colvin is a piece that is best suited for a.) a 3-4 defense and b.) a contender that is a player or two away.

Unless he agrees to play for peanuts, I don't think I'm going to like the deal. Not saying that he couldn't contribute, but I don't think its in the teams best interest. I'd rather see the Texans develop their youngsters while continuing to dig themselves out of dead money deals. He's going to be 31 and he's coming off a foot injury. Does Ahman Green ring a bell? Nope, I don't like it.
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Colvin is a piece that is best suited for a.) a 3-4 defense and b.) a contender that is a player or two away.
You know when he played for the bears they ran a 4-3 and that's when he got the most sacks in his career right?
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The more I think about it, the more I'm not liking the idea. Rather than pay Colvin for what he's done, I'd rather keep our money and develop the talent that is already on this team... Adibi, Diles, Thompson... Colvin is a piece that is best suited for a.) a 3-4 defense and b.) a contender that is a player or two away.

Unless he agrees to play for peanuts, I don't think I'm going to like the deal. Not saying that he couldn't contribute, but I don't think its in the teams best interest. I'd rather see the Texans develop their youngsters while continuing to dig themselves out of dead money deals. He's going to be 31 and he's coming off a foot injury. Does Ahman Green ring a bell? Nope, I don't like it.
Why not spend the money if he is the best option out there? We need the upgrade and they didn't do anything about it in the draft. Let's get this done as long as we pay market rate and no expansion-premium. Mario needs some help so he can truly blossom and dominate like a #1 overall pick should. He has been fantastic but lets help the guy..hes a warrior.
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You know when he played for the bears they ran a 4-3 and that's when he got the most sacks in his career right?
Very true, he had back to back 10.5 sack seasons - several years and a few injuries ago. That's what I mean about paying the dude for what he has done... a lot of risk involved if the contract is anywhere near what I think he's shooting for. He passed the Colts physical also, but they still haven't brought him aboard. They've been working on that deal since mid-April. Chances are he's asking too much. I don't want to see us invest in a guy who has a track record of missing time... especially at his age.
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You know when he played for the bears they ran a 4-3 and that's when he got the most sacks in his career right?
My thoughts exaclty.... Colvin can probably fit either defense especially if you ask your OLB to rush more than cover.

Given that this is not the case in our scheme (from what I understand) I figure he wouldn't play much OLB and would have his hand on the ground if he was on the field.
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Why not spend the money if he is the best option out there? We need the upgrade and they didn't do anything about it in the draft. Let's get this done as long as we pay market rate and no expansion-premium. Mario needs some help so he can truly blossom and dominate like a #1 overall pick should. He has been fantastic but lets help the guy..hes a warrior.
I agree that Mario needs help - from a true DE - not an aging LB. Not to mention, we have several talented LBs who could benefit from playing time. He's a good player, and I'm not saying he couldn't contribute - but I think we could get similar contributions from some of the LBs already on our roster. My issue with him is not that he isn't talented, its that he has dead money deal written all over him.
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I agree that Mario needs help - from a true DE - not an aging LB. Not to mention, we have several talented LBs who could benefit from playing time. He's a good player, and I'm not saying he couldn't contribute - but I think we could get similar contributions from some of the LBs already on our roster. My issue with him is not that he isn't talented, its that he has dead money deal written all over him.
The bright side is that Jackasserly is out of the picture, so I expect Rick Smith will keep the deal within reason and have the patience to pass it up if it seems too high and detrimental to our other plans.
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I agree that Mario needs help - from a true DE - not an aging LB. Not to mention, we have several talented LBs who could benefit from playing time. He's a good player, and I'm not saying he couldn't contribute - but I think we could get similar contributions from some of the LBs already on our roster. My issue with him is not that he isn't talented, its that he has dead money deal written all over him.
Where you are missing the point is that Colvin will not be playing LB he will be playing edge rusher. I am not sure which LB you are referring to as talented for rushing the passer. The only one that I know of that has even been mentioned has been Chaun Thmpson. Kubiak just said he might be used as a edge rusher on passing downs.

This does nothing to the players you mentioned as far as them developing and getting playing time at LB. Besides we are not giving up draft picks and I do not think the cap hit will be that much.
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yes sign him up. He can even compete for the OLB starting spot, or backup, or situational pass rusher. Not to mention he has tremendous veteran knowledge from a team that is known for excellent LB play.
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Where you are missing the point is that Colvin will not be playing LB he will be playing edge rusher. I am not sure which LB you are referring to as talented for rushing the passer. The only one that I know of that has even been mentioned has been Chaun Thmpson. Kubiak just said he might be used as a edge rusher on passing downs.

This does nothing to the players you mentioned as far as them developing and getting playing time at LB. Besides we are not giving up draft picks and I do not think the cap hit will be that much.
So you're assuming Colvin, at 250, will come into to play backup DE? I couldn't disagree more. First of all you are asking him to play a position he's never played. If he comes, he will most certainly play Linebacker. You can wish he played DE like an edge rushing LB all day long, doesn't mean its gonna happen. I cannot emphasize enough that he hasn't played in the 4-3 in six years, and even then he played LB. He didn't play DE in college or the pros. Please show me the press clipping, web page, quote box, or whatever that says Colvin is coming here to be a backup DE. They want him to come in and add that pass rushing ability from the LB spot - just like he did with the Pats and the Bears.

I don't doubt that he still has skills, but he failed NE's physical and was released. He's been courted for near two months by the Colts but still hasn't settled on a deal. If all he wanted was to play for a contender, he'd be back home in Indy. He wants a payday. That's why he's shopping himself. Look - he's coming off a foot injury that shelved him for the second half of last season. You think he still has that speed he had when he was in his heyday? Naw bro. He's had both a hip injury and a foot injury that caused him to miss significant time in his career. He's damaged goods. I don't want to see the Texans take that kind of risk on a 31 year old player - not for the money he's looking for. He was due over 5 mil from the Pats, I'm pretty sure he would like to see something in that ball park.

As far as the LBs with speed - All three that I mentioned have that in spades. All three are athletic enough to rush the passer if given the opportunity. All they need is their number to be called. They won't get that experience playing behind Colvin. I'd rather take my chances and mold a young player, rather than take an old dog and try to teach him a whole bag of new tricks.
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One has to wonder why N.E. would let this guy go but hold onto 77 yr old Larry Izzo.

Like I said a couple of pages back, its probably paranoia but I'm getting a distinct Ahman Green vibe about this potential pickup.
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Guys I have a question. Cause I am confused here. Why a heck he passed Texans and Colts physical? Does NE know something that we or Colts don't?

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Further to my question mentioned above, should NE physical was conducted I believe a few months ago, he may be OK now to perform at least from our's or Colts' judgement from physical point of view? Or, are we still missing something? Or, NE know something that we can't find from our physical checking procedure?

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