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Old 06-03-2008   #41
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But I don't think Schaub's chances of being a first time Pro Bowler are as good as Mario's, Dunta's, or Owen Daniel's.
If OD has the kind of year that puts him in the Pro Bowl, I'm thinking that Schaub is a big part of that.

I put Schaub's chances at a Pro Bowl higher than Dunta's because of Dunta is coming off of injury. I would be happy seeing a productive Dunta make the field this season. Pro Bowl is beyond wildest expectations.
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totally overthinking this. Schaub has as good a shot as anyone if he has a good year....with so many QB's getting injured year in, year out....he just has to have a good year and stay healthy and he has a big shot. That's how Steve McNair and Vince Young and Derek Anderson made it in the last few years.

Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion. As long as you're ok with being wrong you're free to disagree with me. J/K vin.

Do you think Schaub has as good a shot as Manning Brady and someone like Carson or Rivers? If all four of those qb's had IDENTICAL numbers Manning, Brady, and Phillip Go. Throw Anderson who's been on the tip of people's tongues for a couple of years and throw in media child Rothlesberger and as of now Schaub stands virtually zero chance IMHO.

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Wouldn't be surprised if Manning or Brady decline Pro Bowl spots. Regardless, the TE position is not as deep as the QB position in the AFC, and Owen Daniels was at the top of the ENTIRE NFL in TE stats (recieving yards; he was average in TD receptions).
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Do you think Schaub has as good a shot as Manning, Brady and someone like Carson or Rivers? If all four of those qb's had IDENTICAL numbers Manning, Brady, and Phillip Go. Throw Anderson who's been on the tip of people's tongues for a couple of years and throw in media child Rothlesberger and as of now Schaub stands virtually zero chance IMHO.

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Excellent points.

IMHO, Schaub's best chance is if our team leapfrogs both the Titans and the Jags due to his play. If he leads the Texans to first or second place in "the toughest division in football", then that cannot be ignored.

Individual stats can be dismissed as a one-year wonder phenomenon - I think someone said that about Derek Alexander. And if the wins/playoffs don't accompany the gaudy stats then the detractors have a case.

a weak case.... but still

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Wouldn't be surprised if Manning or Brady decline Pro Bowl spots. Regardless, the TE position is not as deep as the QB position in the AFC, and Owen Daniels was at the top of the ENTIRE NFL in TE stats (recieving yards; he was average in TD receptions).
I don't remember Manning ever declining a Pro Bowl invite. Brady does and IMO it's kind of irritating. I should be an honor to be invited to the PB.

I freaking love OD's game, but he's got an uphill battle to make the PB too. Gonzo, Gates, Clark, K2 and now Crumpler are well known comodities.
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I put Schaub's chances at a Pro Bowl higher than Dunta's because of Dunta is coming off of injury.
Schaub is coming off an injury too.

On that note alone, I'd forego talks of pro bowl in leiu of simply playing a full season.
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Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion. As long as you're ok with being wrong you're free to disagree with me. J/K vin.

Do you think Schaub has as good a shot as Manning Brady and someone like Carson or Rivers? If all four of those qb's had IDENTICAL numbers Manning, Brady, and Phillip Go. Throw Anderson who's been on the tip of people's tongues for a couple of years and throw in media child Rothlesberger and as of now Schaub stands virtually zero chance IMHO.

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just because I give my opinion it doesn't mean that you should automatically considered your opinion canceled. All I did was engage you with my opinion.

To answer your question, I think that Schaub has as good a chance as any QB if he has a big year and stays healthy. I gave an example of a few QB's that weren't exactly tearing it up the last few years that got in since NFL QB's get so beat up in unpredictable manners year in, year out. As far as your example with Anderson....Anderson hasn't been on the tip of potential Pro Bowlers for years...hell, the Browns spent a couple of first round picks for Brady Quinn in 2007 because they really didn't have a viable starter till last season when Anderson had his first decent season.
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just because I give my opinion it doesn't mean that you should automatically considered your opinion canceled. All I did was engage you with my opinion.

To answer your question, I think that Schaub has as good a chance as any QB if he has a big year and stays healthy. I gave an example of a few QB's that weren't exactly tearing it up the last few years that got in since NFL QB's get so beat up in unpredictable manners year in, year out. As far as your example with Anderson....Anderson hasn't been on the tip of potential Pro Bowlers for years...hell, the Browns spent a couple of first round picks for Brady Quinn in 2007 because they really didn't have a viable starter till last season when Anderson had his first decent season.
On Anderson. Ok 2 years.

As far as the opinion thing goes.. man I was just messing around.

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Schaub is coming off an injury too.

On that note alone, I'd forego talks of pro bowl in leiu of simply playing a full season.
An injury to a non-throwing shoulder is not the same thing as a knee.
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An injury to a non-throwing shoulder is not the same thing as a knee.
Especially a injury that won't cause him to miss almost half the season......like Dunta.

Comparing Schaub's injury to Dunta's is like comparing a hang nail to a severed finger.
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If you guys consider MS, what about Cutler?

I thought he played quite well for the Broncos.
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If you guys consider MS, what about Cutler?

I thought he played quite well for the Broncos.
Yeah he can take that step and he did play well for them, but for a QB to make it to the probowl, it also takes alot of hype (team success) and I don't think his team is ready to take that next step with him. I really think that franchise misses Gibbs and Kubiak, if you actually go visit their boards even some of their fans admit as much.
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Some of 'em Broncos folks are just too nice!

I hope that their 6th round pick (Larsen) works out for them.

And also that 4th rounder (a center, of course).
LOL, some of their fans want Okam here!
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the pro bowl is a popularity contest and the Texans aren't popular. unless we have a player who is leading the league in something statistical (say, tackles, ypg or sacks) i doubt we'd have anyone popular enough on a national level. i wouldn't get your hopes up beyond Ryans, Johnson and Williams.
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That 3rd AFC QB slot is up for grabs. No reason that Schaub can't legitimately compete for it.
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