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Old 06-02-2008   #21
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Derek Anderson was in last year. It's always easier to get in once you've been to a Pro Bowl. Phillip Rivers plays on a winning team. Winning teams get the most Pro Bowl players. David Garrard was considered a Pro Bowl snub last season (and is on this NFL.com list). It's a tough position in this conference. The best chance Schaub (or any Texan) has is for the team to win a bunch of games.
I wouldnt say 100% without a shadow of a doubt that those guys are better than Schaub. Lets give Anderson another year before crowning him. Gerrard isnt that good and his recievers are worse. He bennifits from a very good running game. Rivers is ok, but he doesnt put up numbers normally. We'll see.
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To get voted in, sure. But, a lot of the top QBs beg off playing in the game and the alternates get a ticket to Honolulu. See: Young, Vince.
The guys who get voted in should be the only one's counted as Pro-Bowlers, all this thrid and fifth alternate stuff smacks of "everybody-wins" sports.

And isn't the Pro-Bowl a tad overrated by the players and the fans.
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The guys who get voted in should be the only one's counted as Pro-Bowlers, all this thrid and fifth alternate stuff smacks of "everybody-wins" sports.

And isn't the Pro-Bowl a tad overrated by the players and the fans.
That's what it has become. I think it would be more of an honor if it was voted equally by coaches and media, but that's not gonna happen.
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I wouldnt say 100% without a shadow of a doubt that those guys are better than Schaub. Lets give Anderson another year before crowning him. Gerrard isnt that good and his recievers are worse. He bennifits from a very good running game. Rivers is ok, but he doesnt put up numbers normally. We'll see.
Derek Anderson showed flashes in '06, and had a pretty good season in '07, and Schaub hasn't played one complete season yet..

Garard won the job, with his play on the field....

100% better, I'm not saying that either, but they've both earned a lot more than Matt Schaub has to date.

In the AFC, Brady, Peyton, Palmer, Anderson, Rivers, Garard, then it's a toss up between Young & Schaub.....

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Duane Brown. beats out last years rookie 1st time pro-bowl LT Joe Thomas. that would be epic
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Agree on Mario's chances of making the 2008 season Pro Bowl.

I'm stepping out on a limb and mentioning Fred Bennett here. I think he's going to improve tremendously this season with D.Rob out, and he gets a nod as a result. (Obviously, I could be way off base...but what the heck, it's good for conversation.)
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I wouldnt say 100% without a shadow of a doubt that those guys are better than Schaub.
I'm not suggesting they are. The Pro Bowl is a beauty contest, and the guys I listed have an inside track to one of the crowns, as of today.

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I'm not suggesting they are. The Pro Bowl is a beauty contest, and the guys I listed have an inside track to one of the crowns, as of today.


Kubiak can't coach in the Pro Bowl if his team is in the Super Bowl. Them's the rules.
I guess you got me there.
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Derek Anderson showed flashes in '06, and had a pretty good season in '07, and Schaub hasn't played one complete season yet..

Garard won the job, with his play on the field....

100% better, I'm not saying that either, but they've both earned a lot more than Matt Schaub has to date.

In the AFC, Brady, Peyton, Palmer, Anderson, Rivers, Garard, then it's a toss up between Young & Schaub.....

Assuming no injuries....

Out of the QBs you list, Brady and Manning are the only ones that I think are totally proven.

Palmer has some drama issues with his team right now.

Anderson is intriguing but he hasn't been doing it long enough to be in the Brady/Manning category.

Rivers and Garrard are very dependant on the rest of their team and their own health status. Rivers is coming off of a ACL and Garrard has a chronic disease that can flare up at any time for no reason. They both depend on solid running games to keep defenses guessing, but that cuts into their ability to score throwing TDs. Garrard also has a sketchy wide receiver situation this year. Neither of these QBs make me go, wow, I wish I had that guy playing on my team (which is the feeling you should get with a Pro Bowl QB).

I guess the biggest reason to think that Schaub could be an Pro Bowl QB is the following:

1. Gibbs making the running game real.
2. Look at the the combined stats of a Schaub/Rosenfels from last year. They did that with a ton of key injuries on the offensive side of the ball and with the Ron Dayne experience trying to keep defenders honest. If the Texans can catch some breaks as far as health goes, reduce the turnovers, and improve with another year knowing the offense, a Schaub Pro Bowl isn't particularly far fetched.

I've seen enough improvement on the offensive side of the ball to be relatively bullish that the Texans can put together an offense that can move the ball. If the defense can get off the field after third downs, you can see the seeds of something special.

(And how about Manning and Brady never getting seriously injured? Colts and Pats fans are so spoiled.)
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Derek Anderson showed flashes in '06, and had a pretty good season in '07, and Schaub hasn't played one complete season yet..

Garard won the job, with his play on the field....

100% better, I'm not saying that either, but they've both earned a lot more than Matt Schaub has to date.

In the AFC, Brady, Peyton, Palmer, Anderson, Rivers, Garard, then it's a toss up between Young & Schaub.....

See, you had a little more respect till you threw the VY is close to Schuab. I hope your kidding, cause if your not thats sad. There is no way VY is in the same locker as Schuab. Watch the two of them play and the only one the "chosen one" comes close to used to wear 8 in Houston...

The others arent so clear cut. Flashes dont make a great QB, or even a good one. I wasnt all that impressed with Gerrard any way. He doesnt thwrow a pass over 7 yards. Not that he needs too, with that running game. That may be my point, Schaub has done alright with RON DAYNE as his starting RB... Compair the other QB's on that list with Schaub and none of them have a worse running back. Not even close.
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I'm not suggesting they are. The Pro Bowl is a beauty contest, and the guys I listed have an inside track to one of the crowns, as of today.


Kubiak can't coach in the Pro Bowl if his team is in the Super Bowl. Them's the rules.
True. That explains the "chosen one" making it...
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I think Mario will outdo his sack total from last year. He is going to pick up where he left off.
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Derek Anderson showed flashes in '06, and had a pretty good season in '07, and Schaub hasn't played one complete season yet..

Garard won the job, with his play on the field....

100% better, I'm not saying that either, but they've both earned a lot more than Matt Schaub has to date.

In the AFC, Brady, Peyton, Palmer, Anderson, Rivers, Garard, then it's a toss up between Young & Schaub.....

Derek Anderson will be on the bench by week 6 and Brady Quinn will be in. Anderson benefits from good recievers. He won't be so lucky this year.

By the way I'm so done with the Cleveland band wagon, nobody even said anything about the fact that they didn't have 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks in this years draft. I know that Quinn was thier 1st round pick from this year, but still they were the media darling last year, and got a free win from the zebras last year against us (Besides the fact that we couldn't stop the run). Can't wait until they suck again this year!!!!
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I wouldnt say 100% without a shadow of a doubt that those guys are better than Schaub. Lets give Anderson another year before crowning him. Gerrard isnt that good and his recievers are worse. He bennifits from a very good running game. Rivers is ok, but he doesnt put up numbers normally. We'll see.
I think this crowning bit is gotten from the HWWNBN era. No one is crowning anything when it comes to Derek Anderson merely Lucky pointed out he got the nod last year.

I expect to see similar style of offense from the Titans and Jags next year. Running game and a modest passing game to keep opponents offkey just enough.

I think Rivers will look better this next year with a full year with Chris Chambers and C. Davis getting a year under his belt.

If we can get a consistent run game to go along with our WRs this could very well be a fun offense to watch next year.
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The reality is this. Schaub ain't gonna make it.

How to make the pro-bowl.

There are 3 basic formulas for making the pro-bowl.

Be a perennial star. See Brady, Manning, Harrison, LT. Its like defensive player of the year in basketball. Its as much a function of your legacy. See Scottie Bitchin.

Be a rising star on a young team and have a year in which you are donned the "rising gun" then follow that year by a year that is similar. Press gets you votes. It that simple. Be one of the players that the media falls in love with, do anything worth praising and follow it up with a year in which you make headlines for good play in a few high profile games and you're a shoe in.

Have everyone in front of you get hurt and or decline the invite. See Vince Young.

Basically, Schaub had a chance this year if he had a breakout year. Instead he's playing for a shot at the pro-bowl in 2009. I mean if he starts 10-0 with a 95+ qb rating... then he'll get the nod obviously, but being realistic he doesn't have much of a shot this year. Mario fits this bill. And someone like Bennett has a shot. I guess I should add one more method. Have a key player go down and fill in and play remarkably. That would be Bennett.

For non skill position players you're looking at basically reputation. Either be a big name rookie and play on a great team. Or build a reputation.

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If Gibbs' coaching boosts our running game, maybe Winston will get some consideration. Can't have a successful running game w/o good blocking
Agreed. Our running game will surprise some people this year & I expect it to be due to an emerging OL- led by Winston.
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The reality is this. Schaub ain't gonna make it.

How to make the pro-bowl.

There are 3 basic formulas for making the pro-bowl.

Be a perennial star. See Brady, Manning, Harrison, LT. Its like defensive player of the year in basketball. Its as much a function of your legacy. See Scottie Bitchin.

Be a rising star on a young team and have a year in which you are donned the "rising gun" then follow that year by a year that is similar. Press gets you votes. It that simple. Be one of the players that the media falls in love with, do anything worth praising and follow it up with a year in which you make headlines for good play in a few high profile games and you're a shoe in.

Have everyone in front of you get hurt and or decline the invite. See Vince Young.

Basically, Schaub had a chance this year if he had a breakout year. Instead he's playing for a shot at the pro-bowl in 2009. I mean if he starts 10-0 with a 95+ qb rating... then he'll get the nod obviously, but being realistic he doesn't have much of a shot this year. Mario fits this bill. And someone like Bennett has a shot. I guess I should add one more method. Have a key player go down and fill in and play remarkably. That would be Bennett.

For non skill position players you're looking at basically reputation. Either be a big name rookie and play on a great team. Or build a reputation.

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totally overthinking this. Schaub has as good a shot as anyone if he has a good year....with so many QB's getting injured year in, year out....he just has to have a good year and stay healthy and he has a big shot. That's how Steve McNair and Vince Young and Derek Anderson made it in the last few years.
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Anderson is intriguing but he hasn't been doing it long enough to be in the Brady/Manning category.
I'm not putting Anderson in that category. Someone mentioned that Schaub had a better shot at getting to the ProBowl than Anderson did. I merely mentioned that Anderson already has a good season under his belt, one more, and he'll be a contender, if some thing were to happen to one of the others.


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Rivers and Garrard are very dependant on the rest of their team and their own health status.
Then the rest of your post puts Schaub in the same boat as these guys. You're saying the same thing as I'm saying, except aknowledging that what Rivers & Garrard has done in the past gives them the leg up in ProBowl voting for 2008.
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I guess the biggest reason to think that Schaub could be an Pro Bowl QB is the following:

1. Gibbs making the running game real.
2. Look at the the combined stats of a Schaub/Rosenfels from last year. They did that with a ton of key injuries on the offensive side of the ball and with the Ron Dayne experience trying to keep defenders honest. If the Texans can catch some breaks as far as health goes, reduce the turnovers, and improve with another year knowing the offense, a Schaub Pro Bowl isn't particularly far fetched.

I've seen enough improvement on the offensive side of the ball to be relatively bullish that the Texans can put together an offense that can move the ball. If the defense can get off the field after third downs, you can see the seeds of something special.

(And how about Manning and Brady never getting seriously injured? Colts and Pats fans are so spoiled.)
And there you have it. Because of the state of those teams, their QBs are ahead of Schaub if Pro Bowl voting were to start today.

We haven't even established our team as divisional contenders.

For Schaub to get to the Pro Bowl, we'll have to be this years Cinderella team. It could happen, I think it most likely will happen(that we'll be the Cinderella team).

But I don't think Schaub's chances of being a first time Pro Bowler are as good as Mario's, Dunta's, or Owen Daniel's.
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