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Old 06-01-2008   #21
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Default Re: Replay:Texans versus Cleveland 11/25/07

Oops, didn't see this thread. Will someone merge mine to this one?
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Old 06-01-2008   #22
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To me, stopping the run is the key to this unit being able to protect our young secondary. If we can't stop the run any better than this we will have a team that looks alot like the Cardinals of the last few years. Good enough to be around .500 but not good enough contend in the playoffs.
Hopefully, Okam will be the key to stopping the run that this team needs.
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Hopefully, Okam will be the key to stopping the run that this team needs.
okam and tj could be a nice run stuffing dt duo
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Default Re: Replay:Texans versus Cleveland 11/25/07

Sounds like this game is what proves Kubiak's statements of we have a long way to go and not celebrating about 8-8. We have to remember games like this where we didn't stop the run and overcome the bad officiating to pull out a winnable game.
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Did we win this time around?

Turnovers cost us this game.
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It was nice to watch the game yesterday, even though I knew we were going to lose. I BBQ'ed some steaks, shish-ka-bobs, fingerling potatoes on skewers, and some stuffed jalapeno peppers with sausage, cheese, and wrapped with bacon. I also cooked some Bush's grilling beans (man I love those things). We sat down to our feast and watched the game, my blood still gets boiling as if I'm watching it in real time. That was a really winable game, as were others, we just beat ourselves with some key mistakes. I'm hoping we can correct those items this season and improve our wins by a couple (I'm being realistic).
This season can't come fast enough, but I know it will be here before we know it. It's already June and we've only got rougly 10 weeks until preseason. It'll be here in the blink of an eye. (then it's bow season, yeah)
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okam and tj could be a nice run stuffing dt duo
Personally I'm hoping for a Okam/Okoye pairing myself. One big body to fill gaps and one with quicks to pressure the QB.
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Personally I'm hoping for a Okam/Okoye pairing myself. One big body to fill gaps and one with quicks to pressure the QB.
Okam is the new hope as the guy to keep the second level Guard off DeMeco. TJ and Okoye struggle with this.
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Default Re: Replay:Texans versus Cleveland 11/25/07

tuned in for about one minute, watched Schuab dump ball over middle 8 yards into a crowd, very high risk low reward decision, ball was tipped then intercepted just off the carpet, some ugliness in attempted tackling & faltered mid-field possession.

one thing that really bothers me is our QB inabiltiy to pull down the ball & bootleg for leftovers when a play is broken. better decisions, more athletic play & Texans should win these games 9 out of 10 times.
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Default Re: Replay:Texans versus Cleveland 11/25/07

Our defense in this game was pathetic. To many cases of playing off and staying home led too a lot of yards given up, especially to the running game. They let Jamal Lewis dominate this game, and it was pathetic.

It was also one of Schaub's worst performances as a starter. He was putting very little zip into his passes, which resulted in a lot of floaters. Then you had Owen Daniels playing the role of butterfingers, yet again.

It's watching the Texans play like that that reminds me of how far we have to go to be a true playoff contender.
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tuned in for about one minute, watched Schuab dump ball over middle 8 yards into a crowd, very high risk low reward decision, ball was tipped then intercepted just off the carpet, some ugliness in attempted tackling & faltered mid-field possession.

one thing that really bothers me is our QB inabiltiy to pull down the ball & bootleg for leftovers when a play is broken. better decisions, more athletic play & Texans should win these games 9 out of 10 times.
I want to agree with this, for the most part. I know some guys don't want to hear it, but Sage is much better at making something out of nothing than Schaub is. Take it for what it's worth.

But again, like it's been said in this thread, there were a lot of things that woulda, coulda, shoulda won this game for us. We've got a lot of things to work on.
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Perhaps the reason why the staff is pushing along Frank Okam quickly.
You mean the svelt 330 pound Okam?? we'll see. I was excited about the signing, but now, I don't know.

Anyone see Robaire Smith Playing the Nose?? Why in the world did we have him at DE, and Seth playing Nose Tackle?? Should've been the other way around.

& Antwoine's sack?? That was nice no?? I mean I'd still like for him to be on this team and all, and I hate that he sacked our QB, but, I hope things work out for him in Cleveland.
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tuned in for about one minute, watched Schuab dump ball over middle 8 yards into a crowd, very high risk low reward decision, ball was tipped then intercepted just off the carpet, some ugliness in attempted tackling & faltered mid-field possession.

one thing that really bothers me is our QB inabiltiy to pull down the ball & bootleg for leftovers when a play is broken. better decisions, more athletic play & Texans should win these games 9 out of 10 times.
I don't think you can really lay this game at the foot of one player. The whole team pretty much stunk up the joint.
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Beleive it or not I watched this game because my wife said" Hey lets watch some football and make it feel like fall".
Partly because its been over 100 here, and she does like to watch football once in awhile, and becaue I got to drink beer also!
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Default Re: Replay:Texans versus Cleveland 11/25/07

I still cant believe the call when Anderson is clearly two yards past the line when he throws the ball and they dont call it. That one call clearly had a huge impact on the game.
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I heartily agree with that. Okam needs to be the real deal for us to get better in the run defense.
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Beleive it or not I watched this game because my wife said" Hey lets watch some football and make it feel like fall".
Partly because its been over 100 here, and she does like to watch football once in awhile, and becaue I got to drink beer also!
I've said a few times... you know, there's something about that Mrs. Big Wig that I really like and now it all makes sense.

Okam is a different design than TJ -- far better potential at the 0 or 1 and that's why he was drafted because of our weakness there.

As far as the road games, I think Atlanta pissed me off the most in terms of all around failure and blown potential.

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As far as the road games, I think Atlanta pissed me off the most in terms of all around failure and blown potential.
Got to agree with you there. Getting lit up by Joey Harrington had to be the low point of the season. Going into that game I think most had that marked as a win even though it was a road game.
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To me, stopping the run is the key to this unit being able to protect our young secondary. If we can't stop the run any better than this we will have a team that looks alot like the Cardinals of the last few years. Good enough to be around .500 but not good enough contend in the playoffs.
Smack on Vinnie. If we improve our run defense, it will make the job of the secondary a lot easier. That is why I am watching how well Okam does. For someone drafted in the 5th round, we are sure going to be depending on him.
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