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Old 05-20-2008   #1
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I was just forced to watch the Dancing with the Stars Finale, however it makes me wonder:

What would everyone give up for Jason Taylor in trade?

I know this isn't realistic to think it would happen, but seeing that Taylor has maybe two decent years left in the tank, and the fact that he could meantor Mario what do ya think?

I would give a third, but I'm sure the Tuna would want at least a 2nd, and then some.


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I was just forced to watch the Dancing with the Stars Finale, however it makes me wonder:

What would everyone give up for Jason Taylor in trade?

I know this isn't realistic to think it would happen, but seeing that Taylor has maybe two decent years left in the tank, and the fact that he could meantor Mario what do ya think?

I would give a third, but I'm sure the Tuna would want at least a 2nd, and then some.


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What would I personally give up for him if I was GM, I am thinking that I could throw a 6th out there, maybe a 5th if I got a 7th back.
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I would give up this years 3rd and 7th. He's still a damn good player.
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We could trade Demeco for him.
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Default Re: What would you give up for Jason Taylor?

a ham sammich. With his age and massive salary even the Dolphins are looking to unload him now.
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Default Re: What would you give up for Jason Taylor?

Wouldn't give up anything unless he was willing to renogiate his contract and take a paycut.

He knew when he signed that contract what he was getting into with the Dolphins and that it'd be a hard contract to move.
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I would give a six or seventh and sign him to a heavy bonus laden contract that mitigates the risk of signing an older player that has only known being a Miami Dolphin.
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Default Re: What would you give up for Jason Taylor?

Nothing. It's not that I don't think he's got something left because I do. I just don't think his contract is something I want any part of and for the most part the only old dudes who can still play that I want to see around here are OUR old dudes who can still play. When our coaches know our older players well and can give an educated opinion on whether or not they think the player has "x" number of years left (barring injury) that's one thing. When you're taking someone elses castoffs that's entirely different. Jason Taylor will get released (unless someone gets really stupid) and then he'll either be a complete steal or an absolute anchor ready to drag down whatever team pins it's hopes on him. I don't want to find out that he's the latter.
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Default Re: What would you give up for Jason Taylor?

You dudes are crazy, he's getting old but he can still play for at least another 2 possibly 3 years; hell he was just DPOY 2 years ago. I'd see about a 3rd in the current year & a 4th/5th the following year depending on his production his 1st year with us. he'd also have to renegotiate as well.
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Default Re: What would you give up for Jason Taylor?

Jason Taylor mentioned that he wanted to be known for acting 10 years from now. He mentioned that right now he could do great things in football and get big contracts but if a team doesn't want to keep him they can let him go any time.

To me, that translation says 'I know that playing football is not what it used to be for me and I know the end of the road is coming up for me in football. Meanwhile I am making a big splash with this dancing thing, why don't I say I want to be remembered for acting so that some reality TV show or movie producers take a chance on me.'

I don't want that kind of veteran on our team.
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Default Re: What would you give up for Jason Taylor?

With the cap free year looming, the time is ripe to pick up a high dollar quality veteran and spend some money. Everyone acts like this guy is washed up or something. I watched Dolphins football last year, probably too much, and he was still a force to be reckoned with. Drew doubleteams all the time and would be a perfect yin to Mario's yang.

I would give up a 3rd without even thinking twice. Who cares about cap hits anymore? The slate is going to wipe clean in 2011 so why not spend if you got the money, and McNair/Texans organization does. Lock up all your guys till 2012 that you want to keep right now and don't worry about the salary cap anymore. It's pretty much irrelevant with a little creativity and some cash.

I have no problem with him doing the whole Dancing With The Stars thing. He stays in elite shape and takes care of himself. He has been a team leader and lockerroom leader for a decade and is doing something with his offseason besides strip clubs and getting high. bfd.

I would be proud to have Taylor on the Texans as long as we didn't get raped in doing so. He will probably fetch a late 2nd Rounder at least and that may be a bit high. If they will take 2009 3rd Rounder, I say pull the trigger, reneg his deal, and make our defense elite. Taylor Johnson Okoye Mario
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With the cap free year looming, the time is ripe to pick up a high dollar quality veteran and spend some money. Everyone acts like this guy is washed up or something. I watched Dolphins football last year, probably too much, and he was still a force to be reckoned with. Drew doubleteams all the time and would be a perfect yin to Mario's yang.

I would give up a 3rd without even thinking twice. Who cares about cap hits anymore? The slate is going to wipe clean in 2011 so why not spend if you got the money, and McNair/Texans organization does. Lock up all your guys till 2012 that you want to keep right now and don't worry about the salary cap anymore. It's pretty much irrelevant with a little creativity and some cash.

I have no problem with him doing the whole Dancing With The Stars thing. He stays in elite shape and takes care of himself. He has been a team leader and lockerroom leader for a decade and is doing something with his offseason besides strip clubs and getting high. bfd.

I would be proud to have Taylor on the Texans as long as we didn't get raped in doing so. He will probably fetch a late 2nd Rounder at least and that may be a bit high. If they will take 2009 3rd Rounder, I say pull the trigger, reneg his deal, and make our defense elite. Taylor Johnson Okoye Mario
Unless they work something out before the uncapped year, then you're screwed.
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Maybe Jason Taylor will give up football and take up dancing? All I know for sure is we don't need his advanced age (33), and huge salary cap figure.
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BigTimeTexanFan: "Uncapped year?"

Hervoyel: "Forget it, he's rolling."
db, actually I was wrong, the 2010 year will be cap free with the 2011 season being possible work stoppage.

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At issue is the contract extension agreed to in March 2006, just before the start of that year's free agency. It was pushed through by commissioner Paul Tagliabue, who retired soon afterward. The agreement was to extend to 2013 with the opt-out option this year that would end it in 2011.

That would include the uncapped year, which has led to speculation that free-spending owners like Jones and Washington's Daniel Snyder would pay huge sums to stars that poorer teams could not afford.


However, when the 1993 contract that finally resolved the issues from the 1987 strike was ratified it also included a clause that has been widely overlooked.

It extends the time required for free agency from four years to six in the event of an uncapped year, meaning hundreds of players who normally would be on the market in 2010 would still belong to their teams. The provision was added as an incentive to both sides: the rich owners who want to corner the market, and the players who want a quicker free agency.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,6611357.story

The owners have already opted out of the deal thus triggering the cap free year in 2010. Teams will have some provisions in order to try and retain free agents during that year, but the bottom line is that you can point large portions of your cap hits to 2010 pain-free. Al Davis gambled a little bit by going ahead and signing lots of players early this offseason before the opt out move by the owners but he knew it was coming. Was it any coincidence, that within minutes of the opt out decision by the owners, Dallas signed Newman and Barber to lucrative deals past 2010 thus allowing them to lessen their current cap hits and post-2010 cap hits all the while limiting possible defections.

I am not happy about this move, but the Texans are one of the high revenue teams, so it stands to reason that we may benefit the most from a MLB-type landscape of the rich get richer and the poor get poorer (in regards to on-field talent)

There will not be any deal that will take away the 2010 cap free season, its already set in motion with the opt out and the NFLPA wants the cap free season. In other words, they won't make a deal until 2010 is over and the are facing a 2011 lockout.

I am surprised that more people werent aware of this.
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