TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Does anyone know off the top of their head any white guys besides Jason Sehorn who started at CB in recent NFL history? Trivia question for a friend.
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Starting white CBs?
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iggnorent
I was looking this up on Google and I stumbled upon this cubic zirconium
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
No... Not recent history. I think you would have to go all the way back to Roger Wehrli.
TexansFanatic
Extremist
drewmar74
disgruntled
Here's the only two white CB's in the league and they are backups per someone on Yahoo! Answers.
Dustin Fox, CB, Buffalo Bills
Steve Gregory, S/CB, San Diego Chargers
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080130224442AAGpmak
And yes, I realize that wasn't really the question.
Dustin Fox, CB, Buffalo Bills
Steve Gregory, S/CB, San Diego Chargers
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080130224442AAGpmak
And yes, I realize that wasn't really the question.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
Methinks this thread is doomed!
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Ckw
Guest
Methinks this is absurd. I read that site posted earlier, and they make some great points. The racial disparity in the NFL and NBA is ridiculous, yet all the media talks about is how few black quarterbacks and coaches there are. I'm pissed!
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
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Ckw
Guest
Sorry for hating the fact that the media jumps on how racist white owners and college athletic directors are for not having more black coaches and quarterbacks but God forbid I say anything about there not being enough white players in general. You're right.Now it is..
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Hell, if the whole roster was 3-footed purple freaky people, I wouldn't care as long as they won....
*DISCLAIMER*
This in no way was meant to be derogatory towards three-footed people with purple colored skin or even a purlish hue......
*DISCLAIMER*
This in no way was meant to be derogatory towards three-footed people with purple colored skin or even a purlish hue......
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Ckw
Guest
I totally agree Bill. My only issue is the amount of media coverage given to the lack of black quarterbacks and coaches but none is given to this issue or the issue of whites in the NBA.
Personally, I want to live in colorblind society. I support the black athlete as long as he is the best player at the position. As long as my team wins, I don't care what color it is.
My point is black people say they want a colorblind society but at every opportunity mention the issue of race...
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Too late! I'm pissed now.
ChampionTexan
Hall of Fame
Fortunately, I'm a 4-footed purple freaky people, otherwise, you would be in deep doo-doo
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
I hear you... It was an attempt at levity, because this thread could wind up in the NSZ quicker than you can say 'Stretch' Suba three times fast.
Dammit..... I'm suing my attorney's. They assured me that the disclaimer would work...
adam
Guero
There are few white athletes in general. Sad but true. If you expect the politically correct media to help end racial disparity in the NFL, you're sadly mistaken. As far as the modern American media is concerned, there is no such thing as discrimination against whites. That's why any black comedian can call white people "honkies" or "crackers" with no fear of backlash. Yet when Michael Richards...well, you get my point. It's just a part of life at this point.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Crap... I didn't notice you were pissed too.Too late! I'm pissed now.
That's really my attorney's a$$ - now!!
TexansLucky13
53d Signal Batt
Same deal with WR's. Kevin Walter and Joe Jurevicius are the only two I can think of off my head that are noteworthy.
drewmar74
disgruntled
Thanks for considering us of no account.
Signed,
Kevin Curtis, Ricky Proehl (only recently retired), Matt Jones (actually of no account), and Mike Furrey
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iggnorent
TexansLucky13
53d Signal Batt
Kevin Curtis is the only one worth mentioning, but yes, I figured I would miss a few.
Same as above, except this time for Wes.
Interesting trend here.
Walter, Welker, Curtis and Jurevicius are all slot receivers/#3 WR's
Thoughts?
drewmar74
disgruntled
dunno
Couldn't put together a coherent thought. Figure I'll let someone without a splitting sinus headache tackle that one.
TexansFanatic
Extremist
Hold on there....
Are you watching football only?
There are an overwhelming number of whites in soccer, tennis, baseball, hockey, swimming..........bobsledding (yes, I'm being ridiculous now). But let's not say that just because basketball and football are dominated by black athletes that there "are few white athletes in general."
Hutch13
List of demands
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Polo
Guest
Anthony Gonzalez
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Polo
Guest
Thats the point...Sorry for hating the fact that the media jumps on how racist white owners and college athletic directors are for not having more black coaches and quarterbacks but God forbid I say anything about there not being enough white players in general. You're right.
With all the black players and athletes that are littered throughout the leauge, why is there such disparity only with certain positions ? AKA positions of leadership....
eriadoc
Texan-American
Good question. Why are there white linebackers, WRs, and linemen, but no RBs?
kastofsna
Hall of Fame
because all the white guys that couldn't play had to turn to coaching.
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
Steve Largent
says
Kiss my ASS!!
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Ckw
Guest
I really hope you're not being serious with this question. Please answer me this: if coaches, general managers, athletic directors, etc. are ok having blacks at every other position on the football field, why exactly would they have a problem with them at quarterback and head coach? Once again,
Tedc
Hardheaded
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
The NFL is a league based on performance and fitting into a system under a salary cap. Moreover, you get a peek at the draft process over the year. Essentially it is transparent and, copnsequently, fair and color blind.
The fans can choose to be racist or act out their racist uprbringing with words - not necessarily a right, but certainly not illegal.
I am not a big QB idolater so I do not get wrapped up in race at that position. Front office and coaches are all about time-in and paying dues, that is regardless of sport by and large. Fast tracking folks for the purpose of getting folks based on race into a position that they are not qualified for is racist, in of itself in my opinion, and detrimental to the business of the team.
Some of you need to understand that the market is deciding before our very eyes. It may be happening to fast or to slow depending upon what side of the spectrum one is on, but it is happening.
The fans can choose to be racist or act out their racist uprbringing with words - not necessarily a right, but certainly not illegal.
I am not a big QB idolater so I do not get wrapped up in race at that position. Front office and coaches are all about time-in and paying dues, that is regardless of sport by and large. Fast tracking folks for the purpose of getting folks based on race into a position that they are not qualified for is racist, in of itself in my opinion, and detrimental to the business of the team.
Some of you need to understand that the market is deciding before our very eyes. It may be happening to fast or to slow depending upon what side of the spectrum one is on, but it is happening.
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iggnorent
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Polo
Guest
Thats a good question. Wish I knew the answer.
drewmar74
disgruntled
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Okay.... So we went from theRealJoker asking about there being any relatively current white corner backs - to white receivers some back as long ago as 20, 30 and 40 years ago....
LMAO... A.D.D. at it's finest...
LMAO... A.D.D. at it's finest...
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I am shocked there are only two white CBs in the NFL. There needs to be a white CBs association to foster the growth and development of white CBs in all levels of football from peewee to pro.
drewmar74
disgruntled
I think that we've uncovered the answer. It is "No, there haven't been any white cornerbacks in recent history outside of Jason Sehorn."
Ole Miss Texan
Hall of Fame
I think you field the best team you can, and I love how the Texans are doing it. Quality, smart, high character, community-involved, leaders and good/very good football players. You pick the best players, coaches, other personnell based on the above requirements and that's it.
I think it's absurd to "get blamed" for not interviewing a coach even if you have no intention in hiring him. When 'we' hired Kubiak this time around, didn't we get blamed for not interviewing any black coaches? Well if we saw what we wanted in Kubiak, you shut down the interviewing process and hire him before someone else does.
Same goes for Rick Smith... If he was the first guy you interview for GM, and he fits exactly what you want as the GM of your franchise, you hire him right away. Who cares if we don't "interview" a white GM, just to say, 'oh yea sorry, we were just kidding. we have absolutely no intention in hiring you because we've already decided on somebody. we're just wasting your time that you could use to go find another job.' All I know is I have yet to find somebody that DOESN'T like Rick Smith as our GM. Maybe we should have interviewed a black OL coach just to be fair instead of hiring Alex Gibbs on the spot?
The road goes both ways and I'm pretty darn happy at the players and personnel (Kubiak, Smith, etc) we're getting. I do wish, however, we did have at least 1 3ft purplish freaky person... 1 is all im asking for!
Back to the topic of a lack of white corners... I presume the better athletes and cornerbacks stick with the position longer and win position battles and make the teams more... they just happen to be black.
I think it's absurd to "get blamed" for not interviewing a coach even if you have no intention in hiring him. When 'we' hired Kubiak this time around, didn't we get blamed for not interviewing any black coaches? Well if we saw what we wanted in Kubiak, you shut down the interviewing process and hire him before someone else does.
Same goes for Rick Smith... If he was the first guy you interview for GM, and he fits exactly what you want as the GM of your franchise, you hire him right away. Who cares if we don't "interview" a white GM, just to say, 'oh yea sorry, we were just kidding. we have absolutely no intention in hiring you because we've already decided on somebody. we're just wasting your time that you could use to go find another job.' All I know is I have yet to find somebody that DOESN'T like Rick Smith as our GM. Maybe we should have interviewed a black OL coach just to be fair instead of hiring Alex Gibbs on the spot?
The road goes both ways and I'm pretty darn happy at the players and personnel (Kubiak, Smith, etc) we're getting. I do wish, however, we did have at least 1 3ft purplish freaky person... 1 is all im asking for!
Back to the topic of a lack of white corners... I presume the better athletes and cornerbacks stick with the position longer and win position battles and make the teams more... they just happen to be black.
Tedc
Hardheaded
The best person, black, white, or purple is the one that should be hired for ANY position in ANY job, regardless of how many blacks and purple people are or have been in upper management.
In a perfect world race is not a part of the equation and hiring anyone for a position based on race is not the answer.
In a perfect world race is not a part of the equation and hiring anyone for a position based on race is not the answer.
Don't blame the NFL. There aren't many white CBs coming from the farm system, aka the NCAA.
eriadoc
Texan-American
Answer: They don't have a problem with black QBs. The owners, GMs, head coaches and staff want whoever is going to win for them. Take a look around at the black GMs and head coaches in the league, and look at who they are picking for QB. Ozzie Newsome drafted Troy Smith, then this year, he decided to draft Joe Flacco.
As much as some people want to inject race into everythnig, it just doesn't play as big a part in some things.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
Good point. For a recent example look at former Notre Dame WR Jeff Smaridija (however the hell you spell his name). He decided against pursuing a career in the NFL to sign with the Cubs as a pitcher. Who can blame him? He'll get a guaranteed contract in baseball, but he wouldn't be able to get that in the NFL.
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Ckw
Guest
Hopefully this adds to the discussion. If you don't think Div. 1A schools stereotype, you're crazy. This is where the problem comes in. I know directly from the horses mouth that they do. A buddy of mine plays for Texas A&M. His name is Roger Holland. If any of you are Aggie fans, he is our punt returner.I think you field the best team you can, and I love how the Texans are doing it. Quality, smart, high character, community-involved, leaders and good/very good football players. You pick the best players, coaches, other personnell based on the above requirements and that's it.
I think it's absurd to "get blamed" for not interviewing a coach even if you have no intention in hiring him. When 'we' hired Kubiak this time around, didn't we get blamed for not interviewing any black coaches? Well if we saw what we wanted in Kubiak, you shut down the interviewing process and hire him before someone else does.
Same goes for Rick Smith... If he was the first guy you interview for GM, and he fits exactly what you want as the GM of your franchise, you hire him right away. Who cares if we don't "interview" a white GM, just to say, 'oh yea sorry, we were just kidding. we have absolutely no intention in hiring you because we've already decided on somebody. we're just wasting your time that you could use to go find another job.' All I know is I have yet to find somebody that DOESN'T like Rick Smith as our GM. Maybe we should have interviewed a black OL coach just to be fair instead of hiring Alex Gibbs on the spot?
The road goes both ways and I'm pretty darn happy at the players and personnel (Kubiak, Smith, etc) we're getting. I do wish, however, we did have at least 1 3ft purplish freaky person... 1 is all im asking for!
Back to the topic of a lack of white corners... I presume the better athletes and cornerbacks stick with the position longer and win position battles and make the teams more... they just happen to be black.
The kid is just plain fast. He literally runs about a 4.3 40 and is extremely athletic. He was a star in track and can be great in coverage. Yet when he came to A&M he was literally told to not even try to play CB because the coaches were not going to waste their time trying to develop him for the position.
Supposedly they want him to be a WR, yet he is receiving substantially less coaching than many of the other athletes. So instead of trying to groom him and make him something, they stick the white guy back to return punts. We'll see if it's all he does for the rest of his career. I'm just sayin...