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Old 04-30-2008   #1
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Cool San Diego Logic Say We Didn't Reach

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports...8chargers.html
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“We came up one pick short,” said Turner, who along with the rest of the Chargers brass watched Houston trade into the 26th spot and take tackle Duane Brown of Virginia Tech.

“One way or another, something is not going to get filled,” said Smith, who had just five draft picks to work with this year because of two 2007 trades and the selection of defensive back Paul Oliver in last summer's supplemental draft.
I really don't think you can consider it a reach when the next team would've taken him with the very next pick . . .
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That's very interesting. I wonder who the Texans would have drafted had Duane Brown been taken
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That's very interesting. I wonder who the Texans would have drafted had Duane Brown been taken
I guess Cason or trade back again.
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also known as the Houston Logic with Ted Ginn last year.
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also known as the Houston Logic with Ted Ginn last year.
I'm glad that didn't work out. I prefer Okoye over Ginn.
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I really don't think you can consider it a reach when the next team would've taken him with the very next pick . . .
But But But McShay said...

My draft mag said...
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Wouldn't that just mean that both teams were dumb and reached?

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Why would both teams be considered dumb for reaching? Who thinks it is a reach, the so called draft experts? Because they think a guy is a lower round pick it's a reach? Nevermind that the top OL coach in the league and one of the top GMs wanted the guy in rd 1. There is also a possibility that SF wanted Brown in rd 1. This whole concept of reaching and value in the draft is getting silly.
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also known as the Houston Logic with Ted Ginn last year.
No way we take Teddy over the guy we had ranked number one on our defensive board.
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also known as the Houston Logic with Ted Ginn last year.
How'd that work out?

I know i was shocked Amobi was still there given between the two I think a 19 year old with insane upside was the obvious choice.

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Yeah, we would've never gone after Tedd Ginn Jr. If Okoye was off the boards I think our next pick would've been Patrick Willis to go with Demeco.
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also known as the Houston Logic with Ted Ginn last year.
There is a big difference there Kas and that is that we didnt come out after the draft was over and say that we were one pick short of the guy we were targeting.
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Why would both teams be considered dumb for reaching? Who thinks it is a reach, the so called draft experts? Because they think a guy is a lower round pick it's a reach? Nevermind that the top OL coach in the league and one of the top GMs wanted the guy in rd 1. There is also a possibility that SF wanted Brown in rd 1. This whole concept of reaching and value in the draft is getting silly.
Nah. It gives the fantasy football proponents and living room GMs the opportunity to talk about player personnel decisions as if they are intelligent on the subject.
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Yeah, we would've never gone after Tedd Ginn Jr. If Okoye was off the boards I think our next pick would've been Patrick Willis to go with Demeco.
The Texans all but straight out admitted that Ginn was their pick at #10. Just an FYI.

I thought SF had the next pick? I must be thinking wrong. I know that it's come out that SF would have likely taken Brown.

I watched path to the draft last night, and Vic Carrachi had us as his "intriguing" draft, and really, really liked what we did by trading down. He loves Brown. He even liked the 6th rd pick we took, and loved the Slaton pick as well.

Of course, then Mayock had to come in and pour water on the flames. He said that he had Brown as a 3rd rounder, that he doesn't do well against speed rushers, and might be better suited to guard. He didn't "hate" the pick, but was very much lukewarm, and called it a reach.

I generally respect Mayock's opinion, so the things he said are certainly a concern. OTOH, I'll trust Alex Gibbs opinion over Mike Mayock.
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The Texans all but straight out admitted that Ginn was their pick at #10. Just an FYI.
I don't recall this. I remember just the opposite. It was asked after the draft and Smith gave an emphatic "no" to the question. Shefter (who I really like) reported we were going to take him after Miami chose him. I don't think it would've happened and am glad it didn't.
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I generally respect Mayock's opinion, so the things he said are certainly a concern. OTOH, I'll trust Alex Gibbs opinion over Mike Mayock.
Good choice. There is a kind of credibility gap when the two compare notes on offensive linemen.
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we all say it but still when it happens the draft is fluid to the moment.

you could safely say that Brown was the most ascending draft prospect the final 24 hours of the 08 draft & somehow your Houston Texans "just got him" in the nick of time.
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I believe Willis and Revis were rated higher on our board than Ginn.

At least I hope so.
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I think one of the reasons that so many OTs went in the first round was
the additional confirmation of the value of the position by one of the games greatest personnel evaluators, Bill Parsells, in taking Jake long @ #1 overall.
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