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Old 05-01-2008   #41
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I suspect that VY is going to look a lot better stat wise this year. Not better as an NFL QB, but better stat wise. Limited throws over 15 yards and lots of runs and dump offs. No need to draft a WR if ya can't hit then over 20 yards anyway. Heck of a running game and a great defense. That can work.
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I suspect that VY is going to look a lot better stat wise this year. Not better as an NFL QB, but better stat wise. Limited throws over 15 yards and lots of runs and dump offs. No need to draft a WR if ya can't hit then over 20 yards anyway. Heck of a running game and a great defense. That can work.
Trivia here.

Completion percentage on balls thrown over 20 yards (yes in the air and not yards after catch):

VY--17%
Sage--33%
Brady--40%
Manning--42%
Schaub--44%

Now clearly Brady and Manning had more attempts but they are what they are.

Interestingly VY was basically the same at each 10 yard group over 20 yards. Also Sage and Schaub struggled most in the 21-30 yd range.
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Duh ... he was protecting the ball ... like it was a child .
LMAO.... Well he didn't do that very well either (something about being tied for second - with the most fumbles in a season).
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Trivia here.

Completion percentage on balls thrown over 20 yards (yes in the air and not yards after catch):

VY--17%
Sage--33%
Brady--40%
Manning--42%
Schaub--44%

Now clearly Brady and Manning had more attempts but they are what they are.

Interestingly VY was basically the same at each 10 yard group over 20 yards. Also Sage and Schaub struggled most in the 21-30 yd range.

Good stuff, Cak.
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Chris Johnson will win OROY. He's an insane athlete, ran the fastest time at the combine and has good size.

He's going be great. He WILL help Vince.
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Chris Johnson will win OROY. He's an insane athlete, ran the fastest time at the combine and has good size.

He's going be great. He WILL help Vince.
kewls...we got the same kind of back in Slaton but didn't have to pay him first round money. Frankly I haven't been impressed with the Titans drafts since Floyd Reese left. Reaching for speed backs in the first couple of rounds reeks of Arizona and Bengal draft philosophies.....cough, Henry, jj Arrington, cough, cough.
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Chris Johnson will win the titans OROY. He's an insane athlete, ran the fastest time at the combine and has good size.

He's going be great. He WILL help Vince.
Fixed it for ya. That ain't saying much.
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Chris Johnson will win OROY. He's an insane athlete, ran the fastest time at the combine and has good size.

He's going be great. He WILL help Vince.

Wow... That's a lot of money between a QB and a RB (two first rounders). Especially when the game plan will be hand-off and dump & swing passes..
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Default Re: Nashville: Seemingly, Titans didnít help Young

First off, we didn't necessarily need a receiver. We needed a big play guy and that is Chris Johnson. Whether it be off a handoff, a screen or spltting him out he will get the ball and have a chance to make plays.

Second, Vince obviously can't get the receiver the ball anyway so why waste a draft a high pick on a guy who won't get the chance to contribute? Honestly though he isnt going to have to make the big play anymore and the receivers we have are capable of picking up first downs, they just can't stretch the field consistently.
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First off, we didn't necessarily need a receiver. We needed a big play guy and that is Chris Johnson. Whether it be off a handoff, a screen or spltting him out he will get the ball and have a chance to make plays.

Second, Vince obviously can't get the receiver the ball anyway so why waste a draft a high pick on a guy who won't get the chance to contribute? Honestly though he isnt going to have to make the big play anymore and the receivers we have are capable of picking up first downs, they just can't stretch the field consistently.

Well at least your not delusional about that.
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First off, we didn't necessarily need a receiver. We needed a big play guy and that is Chris Johnson. Whether it be off a handoff, a screen or spltting him out he will get the ball and have a chance to make plays.

Second, Vince obviously can't get the receiver the ball anyway so why waste a draft a high pick on a guy who won't get the chance to contribute? Honestly though he isnt going to have to make the big play anymore and the receivers we have are capable of picking up first downs, they just can't stretch the field consistently.
Not so fast my friend. The guy hasn't played a single down yet.


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So whats the deal with every saying we should have drafted a receiver? No one knows how they will pan out as they have not played a donw in the NFL either. No receiver was worth a first round pick and that point was proven when none were taken in the first round.
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So whats the deal with every saying we should have drafted a receiver? No one knows how they will pan out as they have not played a donw in the NFL either. No receiver was worth a first round pick and that point was proven when none were taken in the first round.
True but you could have drafted one in the second or the third, but Noooooo they drafted one in the 4th. What about all the complaining about the receivers droping the ball? It is not Youngs fault is everyone elses.

Before the draft we need receivers. After the draft, we don't need no stinking receivers.
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So whats the deal with every saying we should have drafted a receiver? No one knows how they will pan out as they have not played a donw in the NFL either. No receiver was worth a first round pick and that point was proven when none were taken in the first round.
Bulluck, Your peeps used that as an excuse last season, not us... Blazing Saddles consistently talked about receivers dropping balls and that they needed to get some weapons at the WR spot for vincent to throw to....


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Bulluck, Your peeps used that as an excuse last season, not us... Blazing Saddles consistently talked about receivers dropping balls and that they needed to get some weapons at the WR spot for vincent to throw to....


......Just sayin'
He gained Crumpler and Johnson. He got weapons. Plus he gained a much more proven OC that is familiar with Fishers style of coaching. Or has all of that stuff Texans fans have been saying about new coaching and how it is going to dramatically improve the team just been a steaming pile of Texans Pie?
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Chris Johnson will win OROY. He's an insane athlete, ran the fastest time at the combine and has good size.

He's going be great. He WILL help Vince.
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You haven't been here in a while. Funny how you say that about Chris Johnson though. Last year, a lot of Titans fans came here calling Chris Henry "The Freak". A few signatures were even made by them.

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He gained Crumpler and Johnson. He got weapons. Plus he gained a much more proven OC that is familiar with Fishers style of coaching. Or has all of that stuff Texans fans have been saying about new coaching and how it is going to dramatically improve the team just been a steaming pile of Texans Pie?
The Texans went from 2-14, to 6-10 (with David Carr), to 8-8 now. They will be above .500 this year.
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I think Chow's biggest problem was he was overruled in that draft. I don't think Chow wanted any part of VY as his QB, he would have much rather had Leinart of Cutler.
and would that be a good thing? young has made far more plays than either of those guys. Leinart and Cutler have both been pretty disappointing. At least VY has achieved some team success and it wasn't like the Titans were kicking arse pre-VY. Before VY, there were only two teams with a worse record in the NFL. New Orleans and Houston. Next thing you know they are in the playoff hunt first year and ultimately make the playoffs second year. VY wasn't the reason for the sea change but to not give him any credit at all is just ludicrous. Make no mistake, No Fisher. No Playoffs, but I don't think the Titans make the progression they have made from 3-13 with Volek as their franchise starter. And isn't that what its all about. Winning football games.

Sometimes that gets lost around here somewhere. Losing football on an annual basis can kinda muddy things up I guess. Here is to going 10-6 in 2008! The schedule sets up nicely with many untested/inconsistent starting QBs throughout the schedule. Turn up the heat and get this defense to kick some people's ass.
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You haven't been here in a while. Funny how you say that about Chris Johnson though. Last year, a lot of Titans fans came here calling Chris Henry "The Freak". A few signatures were even made by them.



The Texans went from 2-14, to 6-10 (with David Carr), to 8-8 now. They will be above .500 this year.
7-9 actually. pretty amazing feat.
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I'm going in chronological order from the 2-14 season and Kubiak coming in right after that. Negative rep to you for not understanding my post.
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Default Re: Nashville: Seemingly, Titans didnít help Young

I thought the Titans draft was only so-so, but I don't see why a lot of people are mercilessly crapping all over the draft. It could be that this WR class did not impress any Titans staffer enough to make them think "Vince could throw to this guy and it would work", so why pick one up early. Crumpler is good, but I think he's on his decline, and I think that Johnson isn't going to run in between the tackles. He just has "electric 2 yard gain" written all over him.

Vince certainly isn't getting the help his counterparts from the '06 draft are getting. And that's sad.
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